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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.)sorry SCOTUS disagrees with you and they have said so in 14 different cases. Marriage is a right....
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    Some SCOTUS are bigots, the rest just follow precedent.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You realize that upon marriage women actually gave up their possessions and freedom of movement, right? I mean, otherwise the early women's rights movement that kicked off in the 1840s was somehow convinced in the truth of a lie.

    And blacks, my goodness. It's not as if blacks had anything to worry about: being restricted or in danger of having all of their rights stripped and put into slavery, let alone worrying if they would be seen as equals.
    This and my response is a thread hijack, but if you're referring to the Emancipation Proclamation, do you realize the Proclamation only outlawed slavery in states that seceded from the union? After Emancipation, slavery was legal in union border states, Washington, DC., any union province that desired slavery.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    This and my response is a thread hijack, but if you're referring to the Emancipation Proclamation, do you realize the Proclamation only outlawed slavery in states that seceded from the union? After Emancipation, slavery was legal in union border states, Washington, DC., any union province that desired slavery.
    I wasn't referring to the emancipation proclamation. However, you are correct. Nevertheless, the move itself, I argue, was still radical, despite not freeing a single slave that day.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    WTF, where's you data? I'm talking about equality, not special treatment, which gay marriage is.
    lol theres is no "special treatment" LMAO
    gay marriage is about equal rights, sorry. Your opinion is meaningless. Want data, not sure what states eactly but a couple of the states that SSM made it all the way to the states supreme court check it out, they ruled that banning SSM was against equality, liberty rights and freedoms. SO when the issue was pushed far enough (only twice of the 12 states i believe) the supreme court disagrees with your opinion
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Some SCOTUS are bigots, the rest just follow precedent.
    translation, you were wrong
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    That would be awesome!

    Its a shame, sad and IMO pathetic that AMERICA inst leading the way on a equality/rights issue like this.
    America lagged behind in womens suffrage too. I don't think it's historically accurate that the country leads in granting new rights and freedom to citizens.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I wasn't referring to the emancipation proclamation. However, you are correct. Nevertheless, the move itself, I argue, was still radical, despite not freeing a single slave that day.
    Are you kidding? It was solely political.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    America lagged behind in womens suffrage too. I don't think it's historically accurate that the country leads in granting new rights and freedom to citizens.
    this may be very true but its still a shame, sad and IMO pathetic that we are not
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    lol theres is no "special treatment" LMAO
    gay marriage is about equal rights, sorry. Your opinion is meaningless. Want data, not sure what states eactly but a couple of the states that SSM made it all the way to the states supreme court check it out, they ruled that banning SSM was against equality, liberty rights and freedoms. SO when the issue was pushed far enough (only twice of the 12 states i believe) the supreme court disagrees with your opinion
    The word marriage is the thing. The only thing. To extrapolate, it would be a breach of civil rights (according to you, and some bigoted judges) if a Washington Redkskins fan couldn't be considered a Cowboys fan, even though both fan bases enjoy football and can pay to watch their favorite team play, etc.

    Sidenote: to compare not being able to be gay married to slavery is ludicrious. I see some rights that were actually being denied slaves. I see the word marriage being denied gays. Big difference. Highly political.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    1.)The word marriage is the thing. The only thing. To extrapolate, it would be a breach of civil rights (according to you, and some bigoted judges)
    2.) if a Washington Redkskins fan couldn't be considered a Cowboys fan, even though both fan bases enjoy football and can pay to watch their favorite team play, etc.
    3.) Sidenote: to compare not being able to be gay married to slavery is ludicrious.
    4.)I see some rights that were actually being denied slaves.
    5.)I see the word marriage being denied gays.
    6.) Big difference. Highly political.
    1.) Yes its about equal rights
    2.) your example is meaningless and has no local impact
    3.) weird i dont recall making that "exact" compassion "no SSM = Slavery" could you quote me saying that?
    4.) some rights? wow seems you dont know history either
    5.) a right is being denied
    6.) yes what slaves were denied overall is a huge difference between being denied marriage
    7.) Im sure some do use it for politics, just like some did for slavery and womans rights and everything. How does that change that equal rights for gays is also about equality. It doesnt.
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