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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) LMAO gladly
    like i said 14 times SCOTUS declared marriage a right
    here you go
    14 Supreme Court Cases: Marriage is a Fundamental Right | American Foundation for Equal Rights
    you're welcome

    3.) cant
    4.) yes as far as traditions go you are correct
    5.) lol ok only progressives
    6.) nope its an OPINION lol you are factually 100% wrong to call it a fact
    stats? links?

    sorry the law and millions of people disgaree

    You have the right to marry if thats how you wish to phrase it. But the marriage mentioned there is not what you are talking about. Your talking about a new definition of marriage. If it is a right you do not need the government to give it to you. Gays have always been allowed to marry.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That there existed a handful does not mean the rest were legally allowed. Which is what you fail to understand. Remember that whole reading comprehension bit? It's useful now. Married women, slaves and indentured servants were considered property for the most part. Even free women who married lost control of their property after marriage. Which is why states slowly started giving them a right which the FFs would have easily opposed. That being: control of property. So, what we have now is that blacks weren't given the right to vote until the 15th amendment and women didn't have a right to own property unless they remained single most of their lives. Which of course, was pretty much mandatory given the society context of the 18th and 19th centuries:

    1788 - United States of America: Female citizens may stand for election for federal offices, though they still could not vote.
    1809 - USA, Connecticut: Married women are allowed to execute will
    1821 - USA, Maine: Married women allowed to own and manage property in their own name during the incapacity of their spouse
    1835 - USA, Arkansas: Married women allowed to own (but not control) property in their own name[3]
    - USA, Massachusetts: Married women allowed to own and manage property in their own name during the incapacity of their spouse[3]
    - USA, Tennessee: Married women allowed to own and manage property in their own name during the incapacity of their spouse
    1844
    USA, Maine: Married women granted separate economy[3]
    USA, Maine: Married women granted trade license[3]
    USA, Massachusetts: Married Women granted separate economy

    You REALLY should pick up a history book.
    Again it has always been a state matter. Nothing in the constitution ever said anything about it. You should pick up a history book yourself. Or at least learn the constitution.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I have a lot more rights now than I would have 30 years ago, let alone 200. I don't know what planet you're living on.

    You must live in a different country than me then as Ive lost quite a few. And Ive been here a lot longer than 30 years

    But in the end we all still have the rights we were born with. Again the government can only protect them or take them away. It can not bestow them. Its done a very poor job lately of protecting them. The recent IRS scandal being a good example.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    1.)You have the right to marry if thats how you wish to phrase it.
    2.)But the marriage mentioned there is not what you are talking about. Your talking about a new definition of marriage.
    3.)If it is a right you do not need the government to give it to you.
    4.)Gays have always been allowed to marry.
    1.) thats how SCOTUS phrases it not me
    2.) SSM is not a new definition by any means lol it would be a newly protected NATIONAL right and it would finally be granting equal rights
    3.) if you say so
    4.) not legally in SSM
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) thats how SCOTUS phrases it not me
    2.) SSM is not a new definition by any means lol it would be a newly protected NATIONAL right and it would finally be granting equal rights
    3.) if you say so
    4.) not legally in SSM
    1 maybe you should read it again
    2 Yes it is.
    3 Your waking up
    4 Depends on what you call legally. No they cant get government benefits for it if thats what you mean as in married in the eye of the state.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    1 maybe you should read it again
    2 Yes it is.
    3 Your waking up
    4 Depends on what you call legally. No they cant get government benefits for it if thats what you mean as in married in the eye of the state.
    1.) no need thats how they phrase
    2.) you are factually wrong SSM as exist before either of us was born, it hasnt been a protected national right in this country though but SSM is nothign new
    3.) no i just understand you are free to your opinion
    4.) theres only one definition of legally LMAO you are legally married or you are not. Gays have not always been able to have a legal marriage. But now they can in 12 states and DC. More are on the way.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Again it has always been a state matter. Nothing in the constitution ever said anything about it. You should pick up a history book yourself. Or at least learn the constitution.
    Lol, you're in way over your head now. Your original statement implied that we must dogmatically adhere to the constitution. You even quoted the bit about "inalienable rights" even though states themselves have been alienating and creating rights from the moment they began to interpret the definition of what constituted "men" as they saw fit. This is supported by states allowing some women, blacks etc the right to own property, which they previously did not have. So which is it? Either we interpret it dogmatically or we allow states to interpret the constitution it as they see fit. You can't have it both ways.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    And it's your belief that "marriage" will become "extinct" if the dirty stinking filthy immoral homo's are allowed to use the same word you use and reap the same benefits you reap?
    The words you seek are 'forever changed', not extinct.. Forever change marriage so unions can have the same rights and responsibiltites of marriage. FYI, the same rights and responsibiltites as marriage for a union are being achieved without gay marriage.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    sorry the fact remains it is about equality and NO what you talk about above is simply not true because those things have been proven to be less legally binding than marriage and history also proves separate but equal is not equal.

    SO for people to buy your post when have to ignore facts, sorry

    also as soon as one talks about "integrity of marriage" everybody else who is honest knows you are dishonest.
    THe integrity of marriage is factually not in danger.
    WTF, where's you data? I'm talking about equality, not special treatment, which gay marriage is.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Marriage is not a right its a privilege just like a drivers license. It is none of the governments business what your sexual persuasion is. Get the government out of the marriage business.

    Progressives have destroyed traditional marriage and now want to finish the job.
    I agree with getting the gov't out of the marriage business. I'm not Libertarian. That doesn't mean I think everyone should be able to be married anymore than I think everyone should be considered a disabled vet.

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