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    How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    You do realize that women did own property and so did blacks and voted in our first elections.
    You realize that upon marriage women actually gave up their possessions and freedom of movement, right? I mean, otherwise the early women's rights movement that kicked off in the 1840s was somehow convinced in the truth of a lie.

    And blacks, my goodness. It's not as if blacks had anything to worry about: being restricted or in danger of having all of their rights stripped and put into slavery, let alone worrying if they would be seen as equals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    If anything we have less rights now. Government can not bestow rights but they can certainly take them away. Every time the government passes a law some one loses a right. They have a made a joke of the constitution.
    I have a lot more rights now than I would have 30 years ago, let alone 200. I don't know what planet you're living on.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    You do realize that women did own property and so did blacks and voted in our first elections.
    That there existed a handful does not mean the rest were legally allowed. Which is what you fail to understand. Remember that whole reading comprehension bit? It's useful now. Married women, slaves and indentured servants were considered property for the most part. Even free women who married lost control of their property after marriage. Which is why states slowly started giving them a right which the FFs would have easily opposed. That being: control of property. So, what we have now is that blacks weren't given the right to vote until the 15th amendment and women didn't have a right to own property unless they remained single most of their lives. Which of course, was pretty much mandatory given the society context of the 18th and 19th centuries:

    1788 - United States of America: Female citizens may stand for election for federal offices, though they still could not vote.
    1809 - USA, Connecticut: Married women are allowed to execute will
    1821 - USA, Maine: Married women allowed to own and manage property in their own name during the incapacity of their spouse
    1835 - USA, Arkansas: Married women allowed to own (but not control) property in their own name[3]
    - USA, Massachusetts: Married women allowed to own and manage property in their own name during the incapacity of their spouse[3]
    - USA, Tennessee: Married women allowed to own and manage property in their own name during the incapacity of their spouse
    1844
    USA, Maine: Married women granted separate economy[3]
    USA, Maine: Married women granted trade license[3]
    USA, Massachusetts: Married Women granted separate economy

    You REALLY should pick up a history book.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    This is how I feel most Republicans wish Obama was acting:



    Luckily for us.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    1 Where do you come up with this crap show me where it says marriage is a right.
    3 I say get government out
    4 Then everything is made up
    5 Progressive have destroyed marriage by making divorce easy and down playing the importance of marriage leading to all those unwed mothers.
    6 No thats a fact and most agree with me
    1.) LMAO gladly
    like i said 14 times SCOTUS declared marriage a right
    here you go
    14 Supreme Court Cases: Marriage is a Fundamental Right | American Foundation for Equal Rights
    you're welcome

    3.) cant
    4.) yes as far as traditions go you are correct
    5.) lol ok only progressives
    6.) nope its an OPINION lol you are factually 100% wrong to call it a fact
    stats? links?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Respect and dogmatic adherence are two completely different things.
    Dogmatic adherence IS respect.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Dogmatic adherence IS respect.
    You would have made a wonderful Nazi soldier then don't ya think?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You would have made a wonderful Nazi soldier then don't ya think?
    Nope. Just a devoted Christian.
    Last edited by Dooble; 05-17-13 at 12:55 PM.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Dogmatic adherence IS respect.
    Not really, I can respect certain beliefs of people and not dogmatically adhere to them.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    You realize that upon marriage women actually gave up their possessions and freedom of movement, right? I mean, otherwise the early women's rights movement that kicked off in the 1840s was somehow convinced in the truth of a lie.

    And blacks, my goodness. It's not as if blacks had anything to worry about: being restricted or in danger of having all of their rights stripped and put into slavery, let alone worrying if they would be seen as equals.

    Your just wrong. Show me anything about this in the constitution. Theres is nothing there restricting blacks or any other race nor women. Voting has always been a mater for the states. There is no right to vote either in the constitution.

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