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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    Gay marriage has been and always been about one word: marriage. This is most definitely NOT a rights issue (unless you think, like those dopey judges ((notice I didn't say bigoted))in Maryland who started this whole thing, that the word marriage is the only way to give the same rights and responsibilities as marriage).

    Gay couples can have all the same rights and responsibilties of marriage without being married. I know of 5 US states that have passed union legislation (created by legislators) that has all the same rights and responsiblitlies of marriage. California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, and just recently, Colorado. Can you dig it? These states have granted unions the same rights and responsibilties of marriage without the 'hassle' of gay marriage legislation, or by gay marriage decrees from state supreme courts.

    Those 'equality' rights are the ability of a union couple to adopt. The ability of the union couple to share each other's assets. The only thing not equal, in my opinion, are the lack of tax advantages for a union couple. This can also be done with legislation - federal legislation. Instead of giving tax advantages to marriages, give them to unions, period.

    So, let me ask this question: if gay communities want marriage so badly, why do they denigrate marriage so badly? Do they solely want to be married? The clear answer is no. They want, as do judges, to give everyone the same rights and responsibilities under unions as under marriages. They don't care if, in the process, the integrity of marriage is forever destroyed.

    Gay marriage is not about rights, it's about politics. And socialism (exactness).
    sorry the fact remains it is about equality and NO what you talk about above is simply not true because those things have been proven to be less legally binding than marriage and history also proves separate but equal is not equal.

    SO for people to buy your post when have to ignore facts, sorry

    also as soon as one talks about "integrity of marriage" everybody else who is honest knows you are dishonest.
    THe integrity of marriage is factually not in danger.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    sorry the fact remains it is about equality and NO what you talk about above is simply not true because those things have been proven to be less legally binding than marriage and history also proves separate but equal is not equal.

    SO for people to buy your post when have to ignore facts, sorry

    also as soon as one talks about "integrity of marriage" everybody else who is honest knows you are dishonest.
    THe integrity of marriage is factually not in danger.
    Marriage is not a right its a privilege just like a drivers license. It is none of the governments business what your sexual persuasion is. Get the government out of the marriage business.

    Progressives have destroyed traditional marriage and now want to finish the job.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    1.)Marriage is not a right its a privilege just like a drivers license.
    2.) It is none of the governments business what your sexual persuasion is.
    3.)Get the government out of the marriage business.
    4.) Progressives have destroyed traditional marriage and now want to finish the job.
    1.)sorry SCOTUS disagrees with you and they have said so in 14 different cases. Marriage is a right.
    2.) i agree
    3.)government needs to be involved since its a legal contract that involves federal protections and rights
    4.) blaming "progressives" is nonsensical hyperbole
    4a.) "traditional marriage" is a made up term that is 100% subjective. its a failed strawman argument
    4b.) what ever an individual view of traditional marriage is, it is FACTUALLY in zero danger of being destroyed.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.)sorry SCOTUS disagrees with you and they have said so in 14 different cases. Marriage is a right.
    2.) i agree
    3.)government needs to be involved since its a legal contract that involves federal protections and rights
    4.) blaming "progressives" is nonsensical hyperbole
    4a.) "traditional marriage" is a made up term that is 100% subjective. its a failed strawman argument
    4b.) what ever an individual view of traditional marriage is, it is FACTUALLY in zero danger of being destroyed.

    1 maybe you missed it but the government can not bestow rights
    2 good
    3 Its true
    4 its not made up
    5 Have you checked the divorce rate lately or the number of children born out of wedlock?

    The real purpose of marriage is in case there are children. To determine who is responsible for them and who gets to inherit what. It has nothing to do with love.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    15-20 is rather generous, unless we are to expect rapid changes within those states which had explicitly banned gay marriage in their constitutions-via the courts, or somewhere else.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    1 maybe you missed it but the government can not bestow rights
    It more or less does on a regular basis. Perhaps your obstinate view of governance has ignored reality.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That's kind of what it was from the beginning. The whole civil war thing proved that. States that seceded and issued declarations of secession proclaimed they had a right to allow slavery. "States rights" has and always will be invoked whenever people want to discriminate against others.
    While there are numerous instances where state's rights is simply state's rights, there is a significant portion of it that was used in such a way. State's rights was code for plantation interests in one regard, and then conveniently ignored in order to call in the national government to ensure their interests for another matter.
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    1 maybe you missed it but the government can not bestow rights
    2 good
    3 Its true
    4 its not made up
    5 Have you checked the divorce rate lately or the number of children born out of wedlock?

    6.)The real purpose of marriage is in case there are children. To determine who is responsible for them and who gets to inherit what. It has nothing to do with love.
    1.) thanks for your opinion but like i said SCOTUS disagrees with you and legal marriage is a right this fact wont change based on your opinion
    3.) glad you agree government needs involved
    4.) yes it is made up LMAO this as been proven many times, its made subjective BS. Your tradition are not mine and so on and so on
    5.) what this have to do with anything you said? nothing
    6.) this is nothing more than your OPINION that you are welcome to but the law and millions of other people simply disagree with you
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It more or less does on a regular basis. Perhaps your obstinate view of governance has ignored reality.
    Maybe you have no respect for our founding documents.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gawain View Post
    Maybe you have no respect for our founding documents.
    Respect and dogmatic adherence are two completely different things.
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