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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Gay marriage has been and always been about one word: marriage. This is most definitely NOT a rights issue (unless you think, like those dopey judges ((notice I didn't say bigoted))in Maryland who started this whole thing, that the word marriage is the only way to give the same rights and responsibilities as marriage).

    Gay couples can have all the same rights and responsibilties of marriage without being married. I know of 5 US states that have passed union legislation (created by legislators) that has all the same rights and responsiblitlies of marriage. California, Nevada, Oregon, Washington, and just recently, Colorado. Can you dig it? These states have granted unions the same rights and responsibilties of marriage without the 'hassle' of gay marriage legislation, or by gay marriage decrees from state supreme courts.

    Those 'equality' rights are the ability of a union couple to adopt. The ability of the union couple to share each other's assets. The only thing not equal, in my opinion, are the lack of tax advantages for a union couple. This can also be done with legislation - federal legislation. Instead of giving tax advantages to marriages, give them to unions, period.

    So, let me ask this question: if gay communities want marriage so badly, why do they denigrate marriage so badly? Do they solely want to be married? The clear answer is no. They want, as do judges, to give everyone the same rights and responsibilities under unions as under marriages. They don't care if, in the process, the integrity of marriage is forever destroyed.

    Gay marriage is not about rights, it's about politics. And socialism (exactness).
    Last edited by cabse5; 05-16-13 at 12:33 PM.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    They don't care if, in the process, the integrity of marriage is forever destroyed.

    Please define this "integrity of marriage". Please.

    And who wrote that definition?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    On a federal level? Hopefully never.
    Sorry, but that just ain't gonna happen!
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Please define this "integrity of marriage". Please.

    And who wrote that definition?
    The definition is obviously, a union between a man and woman. That definition was written by people who cared about the existence of marriage.
    Last edited by cabse5; 05-16-13 at 12:44 PM.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    What's wrong with more than two consenting adults getting married to each other?
    Nothing, if you're anti-Christian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Are you trying to associate pedophilia with gay marriage?
    I'm associating pedophilia with loose morals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    So far I'm not to worried about any of your concerns.

    I think your "fear" of pedophilia being accepted and normalized within society is ridiculous and knee-jerk.

    Everything else you listed, so far, isn't any of my concern.

    Dozens of people can unite and form a corporation. If three or five people want to unite in marriage I see no valid reason why they shouldn't. I wouldn't want that, but I don't care if others do.
    I understand that you are not too worried. Many people aren't. But your lack of concern doesn't make all these things any less wrong. As homosexuals succeed in changing the definition of marriage, plan on lots of confusion and serious moral decline in this country.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Nothing, if you're anti-Christian.

    I'm associating pedophilia with loose morals.

    I understand that you are not too worried. Many people aren't. But your lack of concern doesn't make all these things any less wrong. As homosexuals succeed in changing the definition of marriage, plan on lots of confusion and serious moral decline in this country.
    You have nothing to fear but fear itself.

    Homosexuality isn't about "loose morals" or a decline of morals.

    To suggest otherwise is simply ignorance, or fear based on ignorance.

    As far as your "chrisitanity" goes.... why would that change?
    Nobody is forcing you to do anything or change anything.

    There is far more to our society than christianity....so restricting all things to "christian principles" is completely Un-American and wrong.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by cabse5 View Post
    The definition is obviously, a union between a man and woman. That definition was written by people who cared about the existence of marriage.
    And it's your belief that "marriage" will become "extinct" if the dirty stinking filthy immoral homo's are allowed to use the same word you use and reap the same benefits you reap?

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    You have nothing to fear but fear itself.
    And I'm sure that's exactly what Sarah Shourd and her liberal pals were thinking while they blithely strolled along the Iranian border. Liberals are fearless, I'll give you that, but more often than not, they are fearless to the point of stupidity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Homosexuality isn't about "loose morals" or a decline of morals.

    To suggest otherwise is simply ignorance, or fear based on ignorance.
    Thus sayeth the Left. We're on opposite sides of the fence, my friend, and one side can't exist without offending the other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    As far as your "chrisitanity" goes.... why would that change?
    Nobody is forcing you to do anything or change anything.
    You're just trying to change the definition of marriage, that's all. A valued tradition that has held its ground for over 200 years. Your take on marriage demeans its entire purpose.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    There is far more to our society than christianity....so restricting all things to "christian principles" is completely Un-American and wrong.
    And expanding all things to Leftist principles is correct? There has to be a standard of living, Dragonfly, and like it or not, America runs on Christian values. It always has, and must continue to do so now. This country is headed toward destruction, and its not because of Jesus Christ and His Church.

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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    No can do, friend. You've run out of time. You can lead an AGENT J to water, but you can't force him to drink. I've already given you more time than you deserve, so this is where we part ways.

    Good luck to you.
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    THATS WHAT I THOUGHT lol

    we knew you couldnt and I accept you conceding

    but if anything changes lets us know when you have FACTS and LOGIC to support your failed strawman "prediction" of "it'll open the floodgates for every conceivable form of marriage under the sun."
    we will keep waiting
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    Re: How long till Same Sex Marriage is nationally legal in the US?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dooble View Post
    Polygamy among heterosexuals will probably be next. Then as morals continue to loosen, we'll see bigamy, polyandry, and polygamy among homosexuals entering the scene. Beyond that I see younger folks getting more comfortable wearing government issue condoms, so look for pedophilia rates to drop steadily as the age of consent dips into the lower teens and eventually down to ages 11 or 12, or possibly even younger. And after that? Sky's the limit, really. We'll just have to wait and see where America's Enlightened guide us next.
    LMAO

    as soon as you associate equal rights for gays with child rape you lose again, wow, beyond the fact you cant back up your claims this is why nobody is taking your posts serious

    also new flash.
    If polygamy gets rights it wont be able to use the precedence of equal rights for gays but i would support it and if polygamy is legal that automatically makes polyandry.

    so lets reflect of your lack of support for "open the floodgates for every conceivable form of marriage under the sun"

    polygamy/polyandry which is possible but will have NOTHING to do with equal rights for gays since they are already fighting for NEW rights now
    pedophilia which is child rape

    nothing else huh?

    so one type of marriage that is ALREADY being fought for and child rape which will NEVER happen

    yep thats brilliant.

    Think you can list anymore of these "every conceivable form of marriage under the sun"

    and this time explain how SSM will lead to it, use logical precedence and facts, cant wait to read this.
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