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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    No. Crafting talking points is an age-old method of politics. Obama did not invent talking points.
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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    I can appreciate those like yourself wanting to learn all the truth, however...

    There have been investigations into Benghazi, conducted by the senate and the military. Also, the NY Times launched a major investigation into the attacks and there finding were reported months later. All of them found that there was no cover up, that spontaneous demonstrations caused by a YouTube video played a role, and that al Qaeda was probably not at all leading some kind of long planned for attack. Here is an excerpt from the NY Times about the senate report:



    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/16/wo...eventable.html

    Perhaps there was no major protest in Benghazi immediately before the attack, however the CIA believed there was when Susan Rice went to talk about the attacks (not under any oath mind you) on the infamous sunday talk shows. And al Jazeera, the NY Times, and the CIA deputy director all attributed anger over the video to the attacks. There were protests and attacks at the US Embassy in Cairo as well, caused by the video.

    If the Republicans wanted to call out the President and Secretary of State for their incompetence, that would be Ok. Normal partisan banter that is going to follow any event. I get that, fair game.

    But to compare this to Watergate (as dozens (all?) of prominent conservatives have done) is non-sensical and stupid. Just like the comparisons between Solyndra and Watergate were stupid. And the comparisons between Fast and Furious and Watergate were stupid. And the IRS/Lois Lerner comparisons to Watergate are stupid. And the EPA enforcing EPA standards scandal being compared to Watergate is stupid. Just like comparing the individual mandate to Hitler/Stalin/Mao is stupid.

    And to use these 4 dead Americans as a fundraising tool is disturbing, and I give props to Rep Trey Gowdey who has called for this to stop.

    Good luck taking on Hillary boys. She is going to skull**** these clowns the second they go hyper-partisan on this. I will be tuned in daily to watch the beatdown. Anyone here remember Ken Starr? I almost feel like Obama is a matador, urging the tea party on with a red cape of emails being released, while Hill stands behind him with the knife firmly in her hand.
    I must say that, given the available republican nominees so far, I won't be voting either democrat or republican this year.

    And Clinton will kick their asses, probably. They're that bad.

    But as for Benghazi, I'm actually more interested in the incompetence bit you mention.
    I heard con talking heads saying things along the lines "it wasn't even vaguely related to that video, that's a coverup".

    Of course everything is a coverup these days.

    Apparently everything the government says is a lie.


    I actually agree with that though....I just don't think the repubs will be any better in that regard.
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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Sure.
    Are you claiming Obama invented talking points or that they are not standard operating procedure since at least the 1980's?

    Besides, in the end, the original talking points released on 912 were shown to be pretty close to the exact events on 9-11-2012. They certainly were a lot more accurate than the GWB talking points originally released on 911 back in 2001, which certainly did not include the fact that Bush sat frozen in a classroom full of school children while the tallest building's in America's largest city burned.

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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Are you claiming Obama invented talking points or that they are not standard operating procedure since at least the 1980's?

    Besides, in the end, the original talking points released on 912 were shown to be pretty close to the exact events on 9-11-2012. They certainly were a lot more accurate than the GWB talking points originally released on 911 back in 2001, which certainly did not include the fact that Bush sat frozen in a classroom full of school children while the tallest building's in America's largest city burned.
    Haven't heard that line in awhile.
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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But as for Benghazi, I'm actually more interested in the incompetence bit you mention.
    I heard con talking heads saying things along the lines "it wasn't even vaguely related to that video, that's a coverup".
    Agreed. There is definitely a story in the failure of the Administration to act decisively and allowing the situation to unfold as it did.

    As this is probe #8 into Benghazi, I have lost almost all faith that the GOP will use this as anything more than a tactic to rally the base prior to the midterms.

    But again, I appreciate Republican Rep Trey Gowdey calling on his party to not use the attacks as a fund raising tool after he was one of the main voices calling for this probe. In my mind it will be incumbent on them to ensure this is about finding out all the facts, not searching blindly for witches. I have my doubts (to say the least), but we shall see.
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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Haven't heard that line in awhile.
    That's because the GOP is more concerned about screw ups that cost 4 deaths than those which cost 3000.

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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    That's because the GOP is more concerned about screw ups that cost 4 deaths than those which cost 3000.
    No, it's because partisans from the anti-GOP crowd haven't pulled it out recently.


    Edit: Besides which, what the hell could the POTUS have done at that point? It was up to rescue crews and intelligence agencies, all of whom were no doubt hard at work.
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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No, it's because partisans from the anti-GOP crowd haven't pulled it out recently.


    Edit: Besides which, what the hell could the POTUS have done at that point? It was up to rescue crews and intelligence agencies, all of whom were no doubt hard at work.
    I'm sure GWB asked himself the same question.

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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    I'm sure GWB asked himself the same question.
    It's possible.

    How would anyone but he know?

    Edit: But back to the thread topic.

    I'm interested in this inquiry thing both to see how the repubs go about it, and to see what they uncover, if anything.
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    Re: GOP Benghazi hearings a partisan disgrace?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    It's possible.

    How would anyone but he know?

    Edit: But back to the thread topic.

    I'm interested in this inquiry thing both to see how the repubs go about it, and to see what they uncover, if anything.
    Assuming a leadership role was obviously out of the question.

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