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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I can understand people hating me.............When they tell me their invisible friend hates me too is when I knew they had a very bad problem...............................
    My invisible friend's opinions are his business, and I'll thank you to respect his privacy.

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I am hoping to match my enemies' goals.................They've shown me no mercy and I have decided to show them the same.....................
    You've decided that since your enemy wants to destroy this country, you're going to do your level best to destroy this country, too?

    Welcome to being part of the problem.

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    You still think the US is a functional country..............2wave........................ ..Hi......................
    Howdy Bonz - wife made me go to bed last night. Divide and conquer might have always been part of politics, but I don't remember much of that going on when I first became interested in politics back in the mid 50's Today it is at a all time high. Candidates and parties target certain segments of society and then go after them with both barrels blazing to make them hate the other party or candidate. It is no longer to get someone to vote for you because you are the better candidate with the best ideas and solutions, it is to get them to vote against the other other candidate or party. No one, candidates, parties strive anymore to get people that are for you, they strive to get people to be against the other candidate/party, they do not care if anyone like you or your party, just that you dislike the other party/candidate more. Thus we have the situation this country is in today. A great divide where members of the opposing party want nothing to do with each other and would rather destroy than mend.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Politics has become all about the base, so it's not nearly as important what one does, as long as it pleases the base and and/or hurts the other side. Virtually nothing positive can happen, so pleasing the base has really devolved into thwarting the other side.

    Compromise is weakness, moderation is treason, practicality is evil.

    The fringe was called the fringe for a reason, they existed on the margins, now the fringe rules, but as you would expect, they do it very, very badly, leaving plenty of room for special interests to get their non-partisan thievery done while everyone is duking it out over partisan nonsense.
    yes, I agree. America gets lost in shuffle of pleasing the base. Political party and ideology has become far more important than country for most of our elected leaders today. But it is these two parties that write the election laws and they do it as a mutual protection act. They have a monopoly on our election system and they will not let that go. In the end, most independent voters end up voting for the least worst candidate, which still leads for a bad winner.

    Since Perot ran independents have risen from 30% to 40% of the electorate. (Gallup). I had hope the rise would make a difference. It hasn't as those who have left the two major parties were the more moderate and willing to compromise folks leaving both parties all the more ideological and less willing to work together for the good of the country. So as the two major parties lose members or those who identify or associate with them, they become more intransigence and more extreme, left and right.

    The problem is independents are so diverse there is no uniting them to challenge the two major parties. Besides, even if you could unite most of them into another party, with the election laws today, they probably couldn't get on the ballot as both Republicans and Democrats would unite to keep them off and if they did, corporations, Wall Street, the special interests and lobbyist, the huge money donors would give the new party any money to run their campaign anyway. They are in bed with the two major parties and they like it that way.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Howdy Bonz - wife made me go to bed last night. Divide and conquer might have always been part of politics, but I don't remember much of that going on when I first became interested in politics back in the mid 50's Today it is at a all time high. Candidates and parties target certain segments of society and then go after them with both barrels blazing to make them hate the other party or candidate. It is no longer to get someone to vote for you because you are the better candidate with the best ideas and solutions, it is to get them to vote against the other other candidate or party. No one, candidates, parties strive anymore to get people that are for you, they strive to get people to be against the other candidate/party, they do not care if anyone like you or your party, just that you dislike the other party/candidate more. Thus we have the situation this country is in today. A great divide where members of the opposing party want nothing to do with each other and would rather destroy than mend.
    Good morning, Pero.

    : I shudder to imagine what it might take to get our politicians working together again, and I'm quite serious about that! Whatever it turns out to be, I can almost guarantee that it won't be fun and games for most people!

    Are you rethinking your move?...your recent posts almost sound like your wife is a little reluctant to leave family right now...

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialEngineer View Post
    This is the perfect example of why people need to keep their sense of humor. Over a hundred million people in this country think pro wrestling is fake, and partisan politics is legit. If I couldn't laugh at that, I would almost certainly flip my **** on a level that Nicholas Cage would be like, "Dayum! That dude's crazy."
    I gotta admit, that was funny

    But partisan politics is legit. Individuals don't get presidents elected and legislation passed. It takes majorities to do that.

    Those presidents and legislators put policies and laws in place that affect all of us. You don't get more legit than that
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialEngineer View Post
    Science is about forming a hypothesis, testing it in a controlled environment, and evaluating the results to either invalidate or justify the hypothesis. Having 50 experiments running with multiple controls and multiple test variables sounds pretty ****ing scientific to me.

    But what do I know? I've only finished my electrical engineering degree this semester.
    In science, the hypothesis has a clear meaning. If we have 50 different states passing 50 different laws, what hypothesis is proven?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialEngineer View Post
    Do you consider yourself to be rational?
    I consider myself to be human, and just as subject to the same foibles as the rest of humanity.

    Do you consider yourself to be completely emotionless?
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialEngineer View Post
    That may have been true before, but now there are more people that don't vote than people that do. I think it has a lot to do with the fact that people have lost faith in the civil discourse and the party system's ability to direct it in a positive way. So few people gravitate strongly towards either party today, that if another party emerged that could get even half of those voters, they would annihilate both parties.

    The only reason that doesn't happen, in my opinion, is because the mass media is controlled by the same corporate interests who control the political parties. They turn every grass roots movement into a partisan wedge issue (even though the people in those movements are rarely partisan), and they keep us convinced that a vote for a third party is a vote for the "enemy".

    In reality, a vote for either one of the parties is a vote for the enemy.
    That is not true, and voter turnout has been increasing

    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Is partisan politics too partisan?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I gotta admit, that was funny

    But partisan politics is legit. Individuals don't get presidents elected and legislation passed. It takes majorities to do that.
    You're right. It takes a team effort to run the partisan propaganda machine and the mass media.

    Those presidents and legislators put policies and laws in place that affect all of us. You don't get more legit than that
    And pro wrestlers get hurt all the time. That doesn't mean that their adversaries intended to hurt them, and it doesn't mean that our politicians changed the laws with the collective interests of our society in mind.

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