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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Culture of Corruption... you know where that phrase came from? The root? When it happened?

    Mark Foley. Homosexual sexting underage assistants. Mid Term Election 2006.

    We have 4 dead, a coverup that involves top brass in the Obama Admin. ... including Obama and Clinton.
    We have either massive incompetence, a coverup or both.

    And what do we get from the Socialists?

    Drivel... Pure drivel.
    And we get a typical response from you.


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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    And we get a typical response from you.
    Yes you do.

    1. Historical perspective about the phrase.
    2. Reference of the phrase to how it applies today. A real CoC.
    3. A summary of what the antagonist stated.

    All done succinctly.

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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Yes you do.

    1. Historical perspective about the phrase.
    Why would i care about the phrase. Nothing i said addresses the phase.

    2. Reference of the phrase to how it applies today. A real CoC.
    Yet again nothing i said from the get go has to deal with the phrase

    3. A summary of what the antagonist stated.
    What?


    All done succinctly.

    Thanks.


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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Newsflash ladies and gents there are such things called suprise attacks.
    But we can keep playing the card "obama sucks, liberals sucks, democrats suck".
    It was a reply to this ultra-lame statement, and you followed this one up with another doozie.

    You're a socialist, and socialists have difficulty with the truth.
    Tell me... what one socialist state had a foundation of honesty? And don't feed me this crap that "Demokratic Socialism" is different. It's not. You're all a heap of liars.
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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    ...But I suspect that the instinct you are talking about, while quite real, plays a secondary role. Most of corruption stems from the structural flaws that can be fixed by limiting the scope and role of government. It should be a cop and a guard, not a business partner or distributor of goodies...
    Going deeper, I think a lot of the structural flaws are really due to societal flaws. People need a safety net, and instead of creating it ourselves by creating strong communities, we abandon our neighbors and tell the government to deal with them when they are down. Unfortunately, politicians are busy chasing all the money from interests, not the people they represent.

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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Pretending that corruption is a new thing that was brought upon by Obama is dishonest a bit.
    After all, corruption is a staplemark of the entire US government, starting from Congress. What is lobbying if not a legitimate way to bribe people?

    And you think that Obama brought the **** inside the house? Sure, he and his people are incompetent. That is true. Maybe a bit more incompetent than Bush because at least Bush had people telling him whom to put in place because they were good at their job. Hell, even Congress was somewhat more competent. You didn't have Reid not knowing whats in a major landmark healthcare bill. Even the congressmen who passed the Patriot act in Bush's time knew that it was a load of garbage and yet they all passed it.

    If you need to add a trademark to Obama, its whimpering. Obama didn't bring corruption to the white house, it was there when he got there. He just shook hands with it. He brought whimpering to the White House.

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    Re: Culture of corruption

    the culture has existed since before 1789 and has likely gotten worse each administration. One administration gets elected by criticizing the previous administration and then proceeds to continue the trend or make it worse. The current administration stands proudly on top of that trash pile formed over history shouting out to the world that he is somehow the exception.

    Bunk.

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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    You call 4 dead Americans and the following coverup a "molehill"?
    Where was your concern for our embassies and consulates across the globe when all the other attacks and killings occurred?

    Like in 2002 when the US Consulate in the Karachi, Pakistan, was attacked and 10 were killed?

    Or in 2004 when the US embassy in Uzbekistan was attacked and two were killed and another nine injured?

    How about in 2004, when the US Consulate in Saudi Arabia was stormed and 8 lost their lives?

    There is more: In 2006, armed men attacked the US Embassy in Syria and one was murdered.

    Then in 2007 a grenade was thrown at the US Embassy in Athens.

    In 2008, the US Embassy in Serbia was set on fire.

    In 2008, bombings in the US Embassy in Yemen killed 10.

    Notice the dates, all before the Obama administration.

    Oopsie - I guess that you missed those, didn't you!?
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    Re: Culture of corruption

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Where was your concern for our embassies and consulates across the globe when all the other attacks and killings occurred?

    Like in 2002 when the US Consulate in the Karachi, Pakistan, was attacked and 10 were killed?

    Or in 2004 when the US embassy in Uzbekistan was attacked and two were killed and another nine injured?

    How about in 2004, when the US Consulate in Saudi Arabia was stormed and 8 lost their lives?

    There is more: In 2006, armed men attacked the US Embassy in Syria and one was murdered.

    Then in 2007 a grenade was thrown at the US Embassy in Athens.

    In 2008, the US Embassy in Serbia was set on fire.

    In 2008, bombings in the US Embassy in Yemen killed 10.

    Notice the dates, all before the Obama administration.

    Oopsie - I guess that you missed those, didn't you!?
    Were these outposts denied the security they wanted or needed, and did someone fail to tell the truth after these tragic losses?
    Seems not, or the press would have been all over it. They hated Bush 43.

    I am concerned about national security.

    It is why I think the budgets should be increased for military, intel, border control, consulates... you name it. National Security is Job #1.

    The problem is, Obama and his crew denied them the security they were asking for in Benghazi.
    They told troops to stand down as they were being attacked.
    They reduced security levels and one military leader during testimony said he wasn't surprised at what happened.
    Then they lied about the cause.

    The loss of life is tragic. But it's not the loss of life that is driving this... had he come clean from the start it wouldn't have been a problem.

    Like Watergate... it was/is the ensuing coverup.
    Families lied to.
    Nation lied to.
    Libyan government made to look like idiots.
    Threatening government employees.

    It's amazing folks like you cannot grasp such a simple concept.
    You recall Watergate do you not? Now we have another but far more serious than a 3rd rate burglary... with Richard Milhouse Obama's ass on the line.

    Let me put it in a ringtone you should be familiar with... People died, Obama lied.

    Capiche?
    Last edited by zimmer; 05-09-13 at 08:45 PM.
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    Re: Culture of corruption

    The culture of corruption term came out in the 2006 midterms with D's pointing at Mark Foley... That pales when compared with what went on in Benghazi and its aftermath.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    What is lobbying if not a legitimate way to bribe people?
    Lobbying isn't bribing.

    Lobbying is the ability to influence your government. Government... that beast that steals a little of your liberty every day they convene. It's your chance to defend your turf. Even small folks can band together and lobby.

    It takes majorities to write and pass law... only Obama acts like a King subverting the process.

    For those who are bribed... there are journalists, the court of public opinion/elections and there is a justice system.

    It's not perfect, but I would hate to see a system without lobbying. USSR anyone?
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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