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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There never was an order to stand down.
    I never claimed that the order to stand down came while there was still a chance to save lives, but a stand down order there certainly was, and your post proves it. When ordered not to go to Benghazi, the Lt.Col. in question complained to ACOM Hicks that for the first time in his life he had seen a diplomat with more balls than military officers.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I never claimed that the order to stand down came while there was still a chance to save lives, but a stand down order there certainly was, and your post proves it. When ordered not to go to Benghazi, the Lt.Col. in question complained to ACOM Hicks that for the first time in his life he had seen a diplomat with more balls than military officers.
    You claimed it was shameful, do yu still feel that way after reading the release from DOD?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You claimed it was shameful, do yu still feel that way after reading the release from DOD?
    Yes. It absolutely was shameful. Had I been Hicks, I would have ordered them to go anyway.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes. It absolutely was shameful. Had I been Hicks, I would have ordered them to go anyway.
    Why would you do that anyway when the mission in Benghazi had changed and the four were useful in
    Triploli?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

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    Why would you do that anyway when the mission in Benghazi had changed and the four were useful in
    Triploli?
    They weren't needed in Tripoli, and I want my hitters near the enemy.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    No matter what comes out, it will still be a coverup by the Obama administration. Faux intentionally tried to manipulate the election with this story and now has to stick to it. What if some news organization does this next election?
    Your brothers died, alone, abandoned, surrounded, and begging for help on the radio while their leadership watched dispassionately on friggin television. Their funerals were turned into political grandstanding by those who lied over their bodies. I realize you're a pretty leftish fellow, but so is Sarcogito, and he at least remembers who he is and who they were enough to be upset over that, rather than trying to make any mental gymnastic necessary to defend the people he voted for.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    I disagree. I don't think anything will drive him from office, but I'll sure as hell be glad when his term's over.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Your brothers died, alone, abandoned, surrounded, and begging for help on the radio while their leadership watched on friggin television. Their funerals were turned into political grandstanding by those who lied over their bodies. I realize you're a pretty leftish fellow, but so is Sarcogito, and he at least remembers who he is and who they were enough to be upset over that, rather than trying to turn it into a partisan wedge.
    There's a Roland-at-the-bridge quality to this. They fought for seven hours--one who died came from far away to join--in the expectation that their country would support them.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You claimed it was shameful, do yu still feel that way after reading the release from DOD?
    The DOD release does not solve the questions that you think it does, but rather describes the process. It also does not answer the question about where the order originated from, nor who stood down other options. This still reads as "Africom stood up a response and was then told to stop", and the claim that they couldn't have gotten there is is thoroughly dismantled by Bing West who is sort of kind of how to put this a fairly authoritative voice. A bunch of diplomats were able to make it there, a bunch of CIA guys were able to secure an airfield 90 minutes away in order to support operations, but SOF guys golly gee willickers well you know I hate flying at night and I have a headache and who knows if it would all be over by the time we got there.......


    Whoever originated the order deserves to be made an example of. If that person is wearing a uniform, then their name additionally needs to go down in history with the Army officers who refused to provide fire support in Afghanistan because the request was in the wrong format.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    The DOD release does not solve the questions that you think it does, but rather describes the process. It also does not answer the question about where the order originated from, nor who stood down other options. This still reads as "Africom stood up a response and was then told to stop", and the claim that they couldn't have gotten there is is thoroughly dismantled by Bing West who is sort of kind of how to put this a fairly authoritative voice. A bunch of diplomats were able to make it there, a bunch of CIA guys were able to secure an airfield 90 minutes away in order to support operations, but SOF guys golly gee willickers well you know I hate flying at night and I have a headache and who knows if it would all be over by the time we got there.......


    Whoever originated the order deserves to be made an example of. If that person is wearing a uniform, then their name additionally needs to go down in history with the Army officers who refused to provide fire support in Afghanistan because the request was in the wrong format.
    Is finding the low level paper pusher at the state department or defense department really going to prove anything different about the Benghazi story.

    It all sounds like a lynch mob mentality in pursuit of a victim to me.

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