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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    If you dont know and dont care, why do you keep repeating it? Repeating something you do not reasonalby believe to be true is a lie. I can remember the day I would not have had to explain that. I doubt there is much more truth to the revisions thing, but the lunch menu upstairs gets revised more that that every day.
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    I'm not that easily embarrassed. For all he did, Obama may as well have been asleep. Was he? I don't know, and I really don't care. All kinds of horse crap makes it into the propaganda of political discourse all the time, and both sides do it. It's very easy to attribute motive to any speech or action. It's not so easy to develop a really good lie, though. It took 12 revisions to develop a bad one, so just imagine what could've been required for a good one.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    If you dont know and dont care, why do you keep repeating it? Repeating something you do not reasonalby believe to be true is a lie. I can remember the day I would not have had to explain that. I doubt there is much more truth to the revisions thing, but the lunch menu upstairs gets revised more that that every day.
    Given his level of non-involvement, Obama may as well have been asleep, and that's all I require. You might want to check with WH stewards to verify whether or not he was actually asleep, but as I said, it really doesn't matter to me. He was asleep at the wheel. That revision thing? Check with ABC News. They're the ones that broke that story, and they have copies of those pesky things. The lunch menu revisions just might be of slightly lesser consequence, but of course that's just a guess on my part, too.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

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    Who gave the order to stand down?
    THAT is currently the million dollar question. We know that the SECSTATE was getting live updates, and that State had command of the situation, so I would bet either her or someone next to her with her direction. But we don't know (yet). But I would bet it's going to come out.
    The answer to the question is that nobody gave the order, it's a story that's has roots at Fox, but it's simply not true a stand down order was given. The Fox story by Jennifer Griffin:

    EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say | Fox News

    The real story from DOD:

    DOD Cooperates With Congress on Benghazi Probes


    DOD Cooperates With Congress on Benghazi Probes


    By Jim Garamone
    American Forces Press Service


    WASHINGTON, May 8, 2013 – The Defense Department has cooperated fully with Congress and the State Department on the investigation into the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that led to the death of four U.S. citizens, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said here today.


    A number of panels on Capitol Hill are examining the incident, which occurred September 11, 2012.


    DOD officials provided a full accounting of military actions, “before, during and after” the attack. “The fact remains -- as we have repeatedly indicated -- that United States forces could not have arrived in time to mount a rescue of those Americans killed or injured that night,” Little said.


    The attacks killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.


    The U.S. military responded quickly to notifications of the attack on the Benghazi consulate, the spokesman said.
    Little specifically addressed what military personnel in the Libyan capital of Tripoli were doing during the attack. Special operations personnel, he said, were in Libya in general support of embassy security and to aid the movement of embassy personnel.


    Little reiterated that two service members did go from Tripoli to Benghazi that evening. These personnel were members of a quick reaction force quickly put together.


    “We also had four personnel who continued a mission in Tripoli to support the relocation of American embassy personnel to that location,” Little said. “This is against a backdrop of uncertainty and concerns of threats to diplomatic installations throughout the region.”


    The four personnel stayed in the area to relocate American embassy personnel from various embassy facilities to a U.S. embassy annex in Tripoli, Little said.


    These four personnel attempted to travel to Benghazi. “The team leader of this four-man unit, called Special Operations Command—Africa to tell them that the movement of personnel to the annex was complete,” Little said. “He then reported his intention to move his team to Benghazi aboard a Libyan C-130.”


    But by this time, the mission in Benghazi had shifted to evacuation. The higher command directed the team leader “to continue providing support to the embassy in Tripoli,” Little said.


    “We continue to believe there was nothing this team could have done to assist during the second attack in Benghazi,” he added.



    The four-man team remained in Tripoli and played a key role in receiving, treating and moving the wounded from Benghazi.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference.....

    When it became clear last fall that the CIA’s now discredited Benghazi talking points were flawed, the White House said repeatedly the documents were put together almost entirely by the intelligence community, but White House documents reviewed by Congress suggest a different story.

    ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.


    White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest the edits were made with extensive input from the State Department. The edits included requests from the State Department that references to the Al Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia be deleted as well references to CIA warnings about terrorist threats in Benghazi in the months preceding the attack.

    That would appear to directly contradict what White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said about the talking points in November.

    “Those talking points originated from the intelligence community. They reflect the IC’s best assessments of what they thought had happened,” Carney told reporters at the White House press briefing on November 28, 2012. “The White House and the State Department have made clear that the single adjustment that was made to those talking points by either of those two institutions were changing the word ‘consulate’ to ‘diplomatic facility’ because ‘consulate’ was inaccurate.”

    Summaries of White House and State Department emails — some of which were first published by Stephen Hayes of the Weekly Standard — show that the State Department had extensive input into the editing of the talking points.

    State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland raised specific objections to this paragraph drafted by the CIA in its earlier versions of the talking points:


    “The Agency has produced numerous pieces on the threat of extremists linked to al-Qa’ida in Benghazi and eastern Libya. These noted that, since April, there have been at least five other attacks against foreign interests in Benghazi by unidentified assailants, including the June attack against the British Ambassador’s convoy. We cannot rule out the individuals has previously surveilled the U.S. facilities, also contributing to the efficacy of the attacks.”

    In an email to officials at the White House and the intelligence agencies, State Department spokesman Victoria Nuland took issue with including that information because it “could be abused by members [of Congress] to beat up the State Department for not paying attention to warnings, so why would we want to feed that either? Concerned …”
    The paragraph was entirely deleted.....snip~

    Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News

    Well.....that's not good for team Obama, Is it?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    No matter what comes out, it will still be a coverup by the Obama administration. Faux intentionally tried to manipulate the election with this story and now has to stick to it. What if some news organization does this next election?
    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The answer to the question is that nobody gave the order, it's a story that's has roots at Fox, but it's simply not true a stand down order was given. The Fox story by Jennifer Griffin:

    EXCLUSIVE: CIA operators were denied request for help during Benghazi attack, sources say | Fox News

    The real story from DOD:

    DOD Cooperates With Congress on Benghazi Probes


    DOD Cooperates With Congress on Benghazi Probes


    By Jim Garamone
    American Forces Press Service


    WASHINGTON, May 8, 2013 – The Defense Department has cooperated fully with Congress and the State Department on the investigation into the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that led to the death of four U.S. citizens, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said here today.


    A number of panels on Capitol Hill are examining the incident, which occurred September 11, 2012.


    DOD officials provided a full accounting of military actions, “before, during and after” the attack. “The fact remains -- as we have repeatedly indicated -- that United States forces could not have arrived in time to mount a rescue of those Americans killed or injured that night,” Little said.


    The attacks killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.


    The U.S. military responded quickly to notifications of the attack on the Benghazi consulate, the spokesman said.
    Little specifically addressed what military personnel in the Libyan capital of Tripoli were doing during the attack. Special operations personnel, he said, were in Libya in general support of embassy security and to aid the movement of embassy personnel.


    Little reiterated that two service members did go from Tripoli to Benghazi that evening. These personnel were members of a quick reaction force quickly put together.


    “We also had four personnel who continued a mission in Tripoli to support the relocation of American embassy personnel to that location,” Little said. “This is against a backdrop of uncertainty and concerns of threats to diplomatic installations throughout the region.”


    The four personnel stayed in the area to relocate American embassy personnel from various embassy facilities to a U.S. embassy annex in Tripoli, Little said.


    These four personnel attempted to travel to Benghazi. “The team leader of this four-man unit, called Special Operations Command—Africa to tell them that the movement of personnel to the annex was complete,” Little said. “He then reported his intention to move his team to Benghazi aboard a Libyan C-130.”


    But by this time, the mission in Benghazi had shifted to evacuation. The higher command directed the team leader “to continue providing support to the embassy in Tripoli,” Little said.


    “We continue to believe there was nothing this team could have done to assist during the second attack in Benghazi,” he added.



    The four-man team remained in Tripoli and played a key role in receiving, treating and moving the wounded from Benghazi.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What has escaped me? For what rational reason would President Obama issue a stand down order?
    Look ... it's tough enough to cover up what had already happened so perhaps he didn't want to risk another mess that would have been much harder to cover up. What's he gonna say "I sent in a military force to stop a demonstration?".
    Don't forget ... he had a 4 year stretch of it's America's fault going while pushing the notion that radical Islam was fading under his watch so having to go after a bunch of radical Islamists kind of takes the wind out of those sails.
    Besides ... he had places to go and people to see unrelated to his dead ambassador, his assistant, and 2 Seals.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    No matter what comes out, it will still be a coverup by the Obama administration. Faux intentionally tried to manipulate the election with this story and now has to stick to it. What if some news organization does this next election?
    Happen to see Jonathan Karl's ABC piece about the talking points?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

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    Happen to see Jonathan Karl's ABC piece about the talking points?
    Well that and the ABC piece I have above his post.....pretty much ends all that focus on Fox now.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Huckabee runs the same money-making gimmick over and over...

    Running ads urging people to phone in a "signature" on a petition such as against ObamaCare - and of course asking for a contribution and getting the person on his mailing and phone list - to use for himself and to sell to rightwing and religous groups. A Huckabee petition won't change a vote in Congress and everyone knows it. But he can raise millions upon millions. It was Glenn Beck who pioneered this tactic.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    And they call the libs sheeple...
    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Huckabee runs the same money-making gimmick over and over...

    Running ads urging people to phone in a "signature" on a petition such as against ObamaCare - and of course asking for a contribution and getting the person on his mailing and phone list - to use for himself and to sell to rightwing and religous groups. A Huckabee petition won't change a vote in Congress and everyone knows it. But he can raise millions upon millions. It was Glenn Beck who pioneered this tactic.
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