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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    What do you call an attack that wasn't pre-planned like the attack on 9/11 was, but with a few Tweets brought a few Al Qaeda members to gather at one site to attack it? What would you call that?
    Uhm.....I think they proved the attack on 911 was pre-planned. Remember?

    Do you think the several people denying it here in Benghazi that it wasn't pre-planned were wrong all along?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Yes, they are. They want to knock down Hillary a notch or two.
    I think Panetta and General Dempsey already knocked down Hillary a peg or two, then Hicks just Knocked her down the a couple more.....anything else is just icing on the Cake.

    Do you think Hillary can explain away Not talking to Panetta and General Dempsey? How about the fact that the Only time she talked to anyone in Libya, was when she talked to Hicks. Which one would have thought if Hillary really cared for her people. She would have contacted them back sometime from 2 am until 8am the next morning. How come Hillary never called back? She was concerned Right?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Interesting.
    I honestly thought "act of terror" and "terrorist attack" were different ways of essentially saying the same thing.
    9/11 was certainly planned but out of curiosity I googled "9/11 terrorist attacks" and according to google there are 10,700,000 pages online with those words in that exact sequence so apparently I'm not the only one. Nevertheless, despite a possible technical distinction (again, one I'd never heard of until now), I wonder if others in the administration also were interchanging the pharases making at least some of this controversy splitting hairs over semantics.

    I also wonder if initial intelligence could have honestly thought there were in fact "extremists" planning and leading the attack but used the youtube video to instigate masses to join them; not an either or but a hybrid of both a planned assault but recruited a mob to join in using the youtube video to incite. I'm not saying that's what happened myself, but could the early intelligence that was later clarified given them that impression?

    As a side, one interesting dynamic about Middle Eastern culture is many tend to be in awe of western technology especially from lesser developed regions. Because they have such a big impression of The Internet for example, merely by being on the Internet creates an impression in their minds that information and messages posted online carry an official and/or pervasive characteristic.
    They are not the same.
    And for future reference, if anyone say they're terrified of spiders, that doesn't mean they think spiders are necessarily Al Queda.
    It's that whole language and choice of words thing.

    Like ... when you hear Obama say "...I will blah blah blah, but what I will NOT do is blah blah blah...", then you know he's just protected himself by taking both sides while giving his defenders something they can quote no matter how things turn out.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Uhm.....I think they proved the attack on 911 was pre-planned. Remember?

    Do you think the several people denying it here in Benghazi that it wasn't pre-planned were wrong all along?
    I don't think it matters what you call it.. Hillary was correct when she said it.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I don't think it matters what you call it.. Hillary was correct when she said it.
    Which time was that?

    Sept.12: Obama Labels Attack ‘Act of Terror,’ Not ‘Terrorism’


    Sept. 12: Clinton issues a statement confirming that four U.S. officials, not one, had been killed. She called it a “violent attack.”


    Clinton: All the Americans we lost in yesterday’s attacks made the ultimate sacrifice. We condemn this vicious and violent attack that took their lives, which they had committed to helping the Libyan people reach for a better future.

    Sept. 12: Clinton delivers a speech at the State Department to condemn the attack in Benghazi and to praise the victims as “heroes.” She again makes reference to the anti-Muslim video in similar language.


    Clinton: Some have sought to justify this vicious behavior, along with the protest that took place at our Embassy in Cairo yesterday, as a response to inflammatory material posted on the Internet. America’s commitment to religious tolerance goes back to the very beginning of our nation. But let me be clear — there is no justification for this, none.

    Sept. 12: Obama delivers a morning speech in the Rose Garden to address the deaths of U.S. diplomats in Libya. He said, “No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for.” He also makes reference to the anti-Muslim video when he says: “Since our founding, the United States has been a nation that respects all faiths. We reject all efforts to denigrate the religious beliefs of others. But there is absolutely no justification to this type of senseless violence. None.” He uses the term “act of terror” later that night when talking about the attack at a campaign event in Las Vegas

    Sept. 12: After his Rose Garden speech, Obama tapes an interview for “60 Minutes.” Obama says he didn’t use the word “terrorism” in his Rose Garden speech because “it’s too early to know exactly how this came about.” Steve Kroft, the show’s host, wonders how the attack could be described as a “mob action” since the attackers were “very heavily armed.” Obama says “we’re still investigating,” but he suspects “folks involved in this . . . were looking to target Americans from the start.”

    Sept. 12: Libya’s deputy ambassador to London, Ahmad Jibril, tells the BBC that Ansar al-Sharia was behind the attack. The little-known militant group issues a statement that says it “didn’t participate as a sole entity,” neither confirming nor denying the report.

    Sept. 12: Citing unnamed “U.S. government officials,” Reuters reports that “the Benghazi attack may have been planned in advance” and that members of Ansar al-Sharia “may have been involved.” Reuters quotes one of the U.S. officials as saying: “It bears the hallmarks of an organized attack.”

    Sept. 13: ‘Clearly Planned’ or ‘Spontaneous’ Attack?

    Sept. 13: Clinton meets with Ali Suleiman Aujali — the Libyan ambassador to the U.S. — at a State Department event to mark the end of Ramadan. Ambassador Aujali apologizes to Clinton for what he called “this terrorist attack which took place against the American consulate in Libya.” Clinton, in her remarks, does not refer to it as a terrorist attack. She condemns the anti-Muslim video, but adds that there is “never any justification for violent acts of this kind.”

    Sept. 13: CNN reports that unnamed “State Department officials” say the incident in Benghazi was a “clearly planned military-type attack” unrelated to the anti-Muslim movie.

    CNN: “It was not an innocent mob,” one senior official said. “The video or 9/11 made a handy excuse and could be fortuitous from their perspective but this was a clearly planned military-type attack.”

    Sept. 14: White House Says No Evidence of Planned Attack

    Sept. 14: Clinton spoke at Andrews Air Force Base at a ceremony to receive the remains of those killed in Benghazi. She remarked that she received a letter from the president of the Palestinian Authority praising Stevens and “deploring — and I quote — ‘an act of ugly terror.’ ” She, however, did not call it an act of terror or a terrorist attack and neither did the president.

    Sept. 14: At a State Department press briefing, spokeswoman Nuland says the department will no longer answer any questions about the Benghazi attack. “It is now something that you need to talk to the FBI about, not to us about, because it’s their investigation.”

    Sept. 14: At a White House press briefing, Press Secretary Carney denies reports that it was a preplanned attack. “I have seen that report, and the story is absolutely wrong. We were not aware of any actionable intelligence indicating that an attack on the U.S. mission in Benghazi was planned or imminent. That report is false.” Later in that same briefing, Carney is told that Pentagon officials informed members of Congress at a closed-door meeting that the Benghazi attack was a planned terrorist attack. Carney said the matter is being investigated but White House officials “don’t have and did not have concrete evidence to suggest that this was not in reaction to the film.”.....snip~

    FactCheck.org : Benghazi Timeline

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I think Panetta and General Dempsey already knocked down Hillary a peg or two, then Hicks just Knocked her down the a couple more.....anything else is just icing on the Cake.

    Do you think Hillary can explain away Not talking to Panetta and General Dempsey? How about the fact that the Only time she talked to anyone in Libya, was when she talked to Hicks. Which one would have thought if Hillary really cared for her people. She would have contacted them back sometime from 2 am until 8am the next morning. How come Hillary never called back? She was concerned Right?
    How did Panetta, General Dempsey and Hicks knock Hillary down?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    How did Panetta, General Dempsey and Hicks knock Hillary down?
    Didn't you watch the Video.....both stated they never talked to Hillary on the Night of the Attack. Then told Senator Cruz the same thing under testimony. Nor did they get a request to move assets from the State. Hicks stated she only talked to him at 2 am in Libya. No one else talked to her. Plus she testified she only talked to Obama once.

    Do you have some sort of evidence that she contacted anyone else back? These were the people she said she cared for right? You would think there would have been more than one Phone call to people in Libya.....don't you?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Didn't you watch the Video.....both stated they never talked to Hillary on the Night of the Attack. Then told Senator Cruz the same thing under testimony. Nor did they get a request to move assets from the State. Hicks stated she only talked to him at 2 am in Libya. No one else talked to her. Plus she testified she only talked to Obama once.

    Do you have some sort of evidence that she contacted anyone else back? These were the people she said she cared for right? You would think there would have been more than one Phone call to people in Libya.....don't you?
    What video and why was it important that she talked to them, I don't get it?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    What video and why was it important that she talked to them, I don't get it?
    Oh, did you forget The one I put in the thread you had put up earlier.....also with Cruz questioning? U know the thread where you were asking about Who did people think Gave the Stand Down order. While asking the same pretty much the same thing about Hillary. Did you need the Material in each of the threads you go into when asking the same?



    Panetta, Dempsey: No communication with Clinton

    At a Thursday hearing in the Senate, Republican Ted Cruz asked both Leon Panetta and General Dempsey if they had been in contact with Hillary Clinton

    CRUZ: In between 9:42 p.m., Benghazi time, when the first attacks started, and 5:15 am, when Mr. Doherty and Mr. Woods lost their lives, what conversations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton?

    PANETTA: We did not have any conversations with Secretary Clinton

    CRUZ: And General Dempsey, the same is true for you?

    Dempsey confirmed.....snip~

    2012 Benghazi Attack | Newslines

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1061787382

    So you don't get Hillary Making one call to the people in Libya At 2 am......never contact General Dempsey or the SOD. Talk to Obama one time and out of 7hrs. She never called back on the people that she allegedly cared so much about. Yet you still don't get that part being strange or odd?

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh, did you forget The one I put in the thread you had put up earlier.....also with Cruz questioning? U know the thread where you were asking about Who did people think Gave the Stand Down order. While asking the same pretty much the same thing about Hillary. Did you need the Material in each of the threads you go into when asking the same?



    Panetta, Dempsey: No communication with Clinton

    At a Thursday hearing in the Senate, Republican Ted Cruz asked both Leon Panetta and General Dempsey if they had been in contact with Hillary Clinton

    CRUZ: In between 9:42 p.m., Benghazi time, when the first attacks started, and 5:15 am, when Mr. Doherty and Mr. Woods lost their lives, what conversations did either of you have with Secretary Clinton?

    PANETTA: We did not have any conversations with Secretary Clinton

    CRUZ: And General Dempsey, the same is true for you?

    Dempsey confirmed.....snip~

    2012 Benghazi Attack | Newslines

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...post1061787382

    So you don't get Hillary Making one call to the people in Libya At 2 am......never contact General Dempsey or the SOD. Talk to Obama one time and out of 7hrs. She never called back on the people that she allegedly cared so much about. Yet you still don't get that part being strange or odd?
    Oh, that one, well, I was sitting in a noisy Starbucks drinking my cafe latte with my iPad mini and I couldn't hear the sound very well. Now would you please watch the first video clip in the following Media Matters post? I think it will serve t clear some things up.

    Fox Ignores Benghazi Witness Testimony Proving Obama Did Not Order Troops To "Stand Down" | Blog | Media Matters for America

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