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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    I agree with this completely. If I really believed there were assets on hand that could have saved American lives and not used merely for political reasons I would be furious. I just dont believe it, it would have been more politically expedient for Obama to start a small war during an election. But we wont know until the fact really do come out. And then some of them have to be classified. We shall see. I was reading an article in Janes not long ago about the only country in the world that can annihilate any spot on earth, that day with conventional weapons being the United States. But there are limits to our powers. I think a lot of people dont understand that.
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    mistakes being made happens all the time. But trying to cover them up is where a crime comes in. Threatening people to keep them from testifying is a crime, but we do not know that, yet. This all has to play out. There may be a there there, yet again there may not be. During Watergate, for about a year and a half, the democrats tried to crucify Nixon and the republicans defended him to the hilt. Stalemate. Then the smoking fun emerged and the Republicans couldn't run away from Nixon fast enough.

    If there is a smoking gun there, maybe, maybe not. But if there is the Democrats in congress will put on their running shoes and if there is not. They will become like the Rock of Gibraltar. For those partisans on both sides this is very hard to take and impossible to stay quiet. Each side think there has been a great wrong done here, the GOP thinks cover up and worse, the Democrats think witch hunt and an attempt to overturn a duly won election. Sanity is gone for both sides.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I agree with this completely. If I really believed there were assets on hand that could have saved American lives and not used merely for political reasons I would be furious. I just dont believe it, it would have been more politically expedient for Obama to start a small war during an election. But we wont know until the fact really do come out. And then some of them have to be classified. We shall see. I was reading an article in Janes not long ago about the only country in the world that can annihilate any spot on earth, that day with conventional weapons being the United States. But there are limits to our powers. I think a lot of people dont understand that.

    I agree. It's sounding more like a "conspiracy to cover up gross ineptitude", which sounds Orwellian even for an already Orwellian Right.....................

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I agree with this completely. If I really believed there were assets on hand that could have saved American lives and not used merely for political reasons I would be furious. I just dont believe it, it would have been more politically expedient for Obama to start a small war during an election. But we wont know until the fact really do come out. And then some of them have to be classified. We shall see. I was reading an article in Janes not long ago about the only country in the world that can annihilate any spot on earth, that day with conventional weapons being the United States. But there are limits to our powers. I think a lot of people dont understand that.
    Tell me about it. Did I type fun instead of gun. Oh well. Yes, definately limits to our power unless we want to put an end to all life on this planet and I do not think that is a very good idea. Reading Janes is a good way to keep up with all the technology and weapons of pretty much all the countries of the world.

    We'll find out what exactly happened, so far it has all be speculation. Yes, I think there will be a lot of the stuff that is classified and if these committees, both Republicans and Democrats go into a classified meeting to find out that information, I hope they keep it to themselves and no use it for political use one way or the other. Congress is famous for leaks and using classified information for political talking points.

    There are times when I think an administration, any administration shouldn't tell congress anything as they leak so bad. But then, we can't keep the American people in the dark about everything. Or can we?
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah usually that is the case.....but this time we are going with those Democratic tactics. What helps change this up is having those that know how to respond off the cuff. Which Repub just aren't that good at doing so. Well.....they use to have that problem. Not anymore!
    I'm not sure if I agree. The tone of the message I'm perceiving is celebratory by many in the GOP as if the killing of an American ambassador by terrorists works out to be a huge victory. It kind of reminds me of the glee I hear from conservative circles every time news reports that another kid has been murdered in Chicago. It's not like there's any remorse for the victims or if there is it just isn't believable but rather its like "Touchdown! We we're building a case against that Obama is an effective role model to inner-city males and in his own home town! Go team!" I'll be honest, these kind of attitudes make some people want to vomit and consider the GOP culture to be sick. If you're immersed in the we hate the democrats movement so deeply and eat, drink and sleep right-wing propaganda almost 24/7 its hard to see how this comes across by people not in the same culture but it honestly does create an entirely different reaction that what you might think.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'm not sure if I agree. The tone of the message I'm perceiving is celebratory by many in the GOP as if the killing of an American ambassador my terrorists works out to be a huge victory. It kind of reminds me of the glee I hear from conservative circles every time news reports that another kid has been murdered in Chicago. It's not like there's any remorse for the victims or if there is it just isn't believable but rather its like "Touchdown! We we're building a case against that Obama is an effective role model to inner-city males and in his own home town! Go team!" I'll be honest, these kind of attitudes make some people want to vomit and consider the GOP culture to be sick. If you're immersed in the we hate the democrats movement so deeply and eat, drink and sleep right-wing propaganda almost 24/7 its hard to see how this comes across by people not in the same culture but it honestly does create an entirely different reaction that what you might think.
    Well some of the GOP are like that.....but it is like I said before. People going forward have to have trust in their Government. Trust that we will come for them should harm come their way. You will know the difference by those today that will get up and make speeches and do all that grandstanding. Or by those that sit and ask questions trying to get to the bottom of things. Letting the Witnesses testify. Those that are about the Speeches like half of those Senators were. Then you will have your answer about them.

    Technically.....if Obama and his Team would have just admitted all that has come out now from the get go. Then what would have happened? Other than the country coming together. This investigation would be over. We would have either people tracked down or captured or killed. We wouldn't be having trouble with the New Leadership of Libya. The FBI wouldn't have been held up. The CIA wouldn't be looking to lawyer up. They would be focusing on what they need to do in Libya. Considering there wasn't no End Game for after the removal of Gadhafi. All of OUR Focus would be going after those who were involved. Which means these guys wouldn't be sitting in 4 star Hotels talking about who really runs Libya and not worrying that we can't get to them.

    So myself.....I don't go for the trivialization of any of it. The remarks by Clinton are a disgrace. The difference it makes is to those who have fallen.....and for all those who are out there doing their Duty Now!

    I can understand those on the Right acting this way.....when all has been denied in front of their face. Even to sheer admittance as to things Team Obama had, or has stated. With arguments about that they never said this or that. All due to one word in their sentence not being what someone on the Right said. Or the conspiracy theory crap. Or the deflection with Fox news and all that hypocrisy of Faux Outrage.

    I can understand how you feel about the Chicago and the Obama thing. Although the majority in there are his own, that are bitching about him and talking smack. Will also more than likely be the first to get up and start talking smack about him too. Which is why I rather listen to Blue-Dog Democrats. Those who know what it is like in busting their azz to make a living. Which they themselves have no problem questioning Progressives over any issues.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    This right here is why I say this Benghazi situation has turned into a three-ring circus for the Republicans.

    This is what they want...Obama out of office. That is ALL they care about. Benghazi=Watergate in their minds. Instead of trying to get answers for the fallen Americans' families....they want them to drive out the current administration.

    That is shameful and a disgrace to those killed in Benghazi. Find out the answers and get closure...stop making this a ploy to gain political positioning.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Jeez...Obama (and Bush before him) send thousands of noble-minded Americans to their deaths for practically nothing in Iraq and Afghanistan and few bat an eye.

    But three Americans die in an Embassy and everyone freaks out.

    I don't even begin to care about the differences.

    And I don't care if Obama lied or not...HELLO!...95+% of politicians lie EVERY DAY.

    The people that are asking for Obama's head over Benghazi but NOT over Afghanistan have a serious confusion about right and wrong.

    Both are wrong but the latter is FAR more of a crime to America then the former.


    It seems Americans as a whole have become relatively numb to American soldier body counts.

    But a diplomat and two others die - and America flips out.

    They should flip out for BOTH.
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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Jeez...Obama (and Bush before him) send thousands of noble-minded Americans to their deaths for practically nothing in Iraq and Afghanistan and few bat an eye.

    But three Americans die in an Embassy and everyone freaks out.

    I don't even begin to care about the differences.

    And I don't care if Obama lied or not...HELLO!...95+% of politicians lie EVERY DAY.

    The people that are asking for Obama's head over Benghazi but NOT over Afghanistan have a serious confusion about right and wrong.

    Both are wrong but the latter is FAR more of a crime to America then the former.


    It seems Americans as a whole have become relatively numb to American soldier body counts.

    But a diplomat and two others die - and America flips out.

    They should flip out for BOTH.

    Which GOP Politician has asked for Obama's head? Which one has stepped up and used the "I" word? Try coming up with someone other than Bachmann. Which one is out in the Media saying they are going for Obama's head?

    So are you saying accountability don't mean anything to you? That all is as it should be.....so lets forgetaboutit. Just keeping going along. Let people keep making blatant mistakes and then falsely report what takes place to the American people? Regardless that people died, while calling for help.

    Seems to many have fallen for that lame excuse of Gotcha Politics.....its real simple. If playing politics and politicizing such.....then suffer the consequences of the game you play.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Which GOP Politician has asked for Obama's head? Which one has stepped up and used the "I" word? Try coming up with someone other than Bachmann. Which one is out in the Media saying they are going for Obama's head?

    So are you saying accountability don't mean anything to you? That all is as it should be.....so lets forgetaboutit. Just keeping going along. Let people keep making blatant mistakes and then falsely report what takes place to the American people? Regardless that people died, while calling for help.

    Seems to many have fallen for that lame excuse of Gotcha Politics.....its real simple. If playing politics and politicizing such.....then suffer the consequences of the game you play.
    Can you not read?

    I said people should flip out about both.

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    Re: Huckabee: Benghazi will drive Obama from office

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Can you not read?

    I said people should flip out about both.
    Yes, you did but then you seem to excuse Obama because of a believed perception that something can bring him down from Benghazi. So I may have took it the wrong way. As I see it as both parties AND then Administration who is in control. As often they are at odds with their own Party and the opposite party.

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