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Thread: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I dont know who the bad guys are. They both seem pretty bad.
    More reason to just stay out of it.
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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

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    I honestly think natural gas fired cars will happen before electric because the technology already exists and would be easy to implement. I do think the thread you mention would have some merit. I will not offer it, nor any other thread however. I simply don't have the time to do it properly. I also don't cite a lot of references and such just because 1)sources are available that can be construed as supportive of nearly any position; 2) I assume others here can read at least as extensively as I do; 3) I don't require any such reference in my requests of others - just say what you mean; and, 4) I'm lazy in that regard. Admittedly, that puts me at a distinct disadvantage with certain aggressive posters here. I don't care, and I honestly don't care to engage such posters because I've noted that many of them never had an original thought in their entire lives. If you decide to offer such a thread, I'll be supportive, and I'm certain many others will be as well. It's an interesting topic worthy of discussion.
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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    This post is about the UN stating that it was the rebels that used the WMD, not Assad. Pay attention NO1.
    Last edited by DaveFagan; 05-06-13 at 09:16 PM.

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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    Without a clear side that we could support, we should stay the hell out of it unless it spills over into Israel.

    Most of it is a Shi'ite vs Sunni thing, let them kill each other however they want to. It's not like any side is likely to like us or Israel.
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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    I'm for letting Israel handle it unless things get really ugly and someone else steps in, then we might have to throw our weight around. Is it stands now we should keep observing and leave the "assistance", if any, to others.
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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    I don't understand the sympathy for the "rebels" in Syria. We know they are heavily infilitrated with factions of al Queda (al Queda owes its' birthright to the CIA) and now they have used poison gas. The CIA has been funneling money to these al Queda tainted rebels. Morons. Didn't we learn anything in Iraq. Energy Corporations are making big money from Iraq's OIL, and USA taxpayers have footed the bill. Maybe the Big Energy players are gonna give us a discount. When pigs fly.

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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I don't understand the sympathy for the "rebels" in Syria. We know they are heavily infilitrated with factions of al Queda (al Queda owes its' birthright to the CIA) and now they have used poison gas. The CIA has been funneling money to these al Queda tainted rebels. Morons. Didn't we learn anything in Iraq. Energy Corporations are making big money from Iraq's OIL, and USA taxpayers have footed the bill. Maybe the Big Energy players are gonna give us a discount. When pigs fly.
    Here we go again. It looks like the Propaganda Ministry has run this data through several levels of obfuscation, adjustment, and manipulation and inserted through Intelligence Agency linked Mass Media a story that should promote Corporate Welfare to the Military/Industrial Complex in another OIL country. Just like being on a Merry-Go-Round.

    US offers Syrian rebels 'military support,' alleges Assad used chemical weapons - NBC Politics

    "Some U.S. officials have also expressed concern that arms supplied to rebels could fall into the hands of fighters who could eventually pivot to use those very arms against U.S. interests or allies.

    And then there is the issue of scarce political appetite among most Americans for increased military involvement in Syria following more than a decade of war in Afghanistan and Iraq.

    Just 15 percent of Americans said in June's NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll that they favor U.S. military action in Syria; only 11 percent want to provide arms to the opposition. A plurality of respondents -- 42 percent -- prefer to provide only humanitarian assistance, and 24 percent believe the U.S. shouldn't take any action.

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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    Somebody come prove me wrong. I am saying Obama's claims of the Syrian gov't using WMD have the same basis in fact as GWBush's, the first incompetent, claims of WMD in Iraq. I don't perceive Assad to be a bad guy, and I don't know why we are interested in Syria. Looked like Syria was doing fine until we financed some terrorists to stir crap. Talk to me. Prove what an idiot I am. C'mon.

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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    I voted no.

    I do not now, nor have I ever believed that the U.S.A. needs to act like the world's policeman.

    That does not mean I am an "Isolationist." It just means that we should carefully consider and then make valid alliances with responsible foreign powers. Then and only then actively defend our allies just as we would expect them to honor an alliance and defend us.

    Other than that, each society is responsible for their own future. Leave them to it. Works for Canada, see anyone who hates Canadians?

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    Re: Should the USA attack those using Chemical weapons in Syris?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    I voted no.

    I do not now, nor have I ever believed that the U.S.A. needs to act like the world's policeman.

    That does not mean I am an "Isolationist." It just means that we should carefully consider and then make valid alliances with responsible foreign powers. Then and only then actively defend our allies just as we would expect them to honor an alliance and defend us.

    Other than that, each society is responsible for their own future. Leave them to it. Works for Canada, see anyone who hates Canadians?

    The Media says the weapons are on the way to the rebels and our special forces are training them in Jordan. Wow, I missed the most important commercial stroke of genius involved in this decision. I mean, think about it. We, the USA, are the largest arms dealer in the World. These rebels will put these weapons to work all over, and the people they are trying to kill will buy lots more weapons to repel them. This is a jobs program for the Military/Industrial Complex. Who'd a thunk it? Keeeerisssst, if you ain't got a war, gin one up. War is good business and business is good.

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