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  • a false concept

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  • the laws of a particular society

    20 28.17%
  • the laws of God

    10 14.08%
  • the laws of nature

    9 12.68%
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    We can't do that? Damn. You realize your changing the entire - oh, never mind.
    Ok, he's right. We should develop a social/justice system capable of satisfying sociopaths. :rolleyes

    Unless one's proposal for a moral system, and its derivation, satisfy the participation of sociopaths, then the idea doesn't count.

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    Re: morality

    I went with law of nature. I think it is our biology that gives us a meaning for right and wrong. We don't like pain, fear, or loneliness, so right are things that reduce those feelings and wrong are things that increase them. Cooperation is right because it helps us be happy, healthy, and safe. Morality is very much based on physical, corporeal sensations.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Ok, he's right. We should develop a social/justice system capable of satisfying sociopaths. :rolleyes

    Unless one's proposal for a moral system, and its derivation, satisfy the participation of sociopaths, then the idea doesn't count.
    See? There you go. If we don't accomodate the sociopaths, they'll kill us all. How this finds it's way into a "moral" system is beyond me.

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's way too broad. 1/1m sociopaths does not constitute "many cases" without an intellectually dishonest change of context.
    Well if we're not including abortionists/abortionees and people who think the 10 commandments are too restrictive, then fine.

    Sounds like we'll have very little to discuss in the way of morality.

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    Re: morality

    You may not be able to define it, but morality is what separates man from lesser beings. Without morality, society as we know it would not exist.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: morality

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    Honor your father and mother. Then you will live a long, full life in the land the Lord your God is giving you.

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    You must not murder.

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    You must not commit adultery.

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    You must not steal.

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    You must not testify falsely against your neighbor.

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    You must not covet your neighbor’s house. You must not covet your neighbor’s wife, male or female servant, ox or donkey, or anything else that belongs to your neighbor.
    "Sovereignty is not given, it is taken." ATATÜRK

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    Re: morality

    I guess I should've put this in the OP, because this is the topic that I wanted the thread to be about.

    I see morality as the laws of nature. I don't believe in God. I don't believe that two people or two cultures can have different moral codes and both be right. That seems to go against the definition of morality. When I believe that something is wrong, I don't just think that it's wrong for me. Lastly, in my heart of hearts, I don't believe that it's a false concept.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Depends on how you look at it. There are many gods in human story telling, but is it possible that only one God showed himself to humans as something that would understand better in order to teach them better?
    Which God is that?

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by penn1954 View Post
    The GOD in heaven that by faith I believe I will be with after my death !!
    Which God is that?

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Do you believe that each person can have their own morals? If a rapist feels that rape is moral, and the victim feels that it's immoral, can they both be right?
    Of course each person can have their own morals and yes they can both be right. They can also both be wrong. It just depends on their point of view. Its one of the reasons that I normally hate taking morality stances in discussions I participate it.
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