View Poll Results: What is morality/

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  • a false concept

    5 7.04%
  • the laws of a particular society

    20 28.17%
  • the laws of God

    10 14.08%
  • the laws of nature

    9 12.68%
  • other

    27 38.03%
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    The initial post I gave was of a couple married in a church and so that is why i speak of religious rules here. It was an example based on a religious decision. Certainly there could be an atheistic position as well.
    So you acknowledge that sometimes the law loses?
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Are you trying to argue there is no individual morality?
    I am. There's individual interpretation of morality, but no individual morality. When I feel that rape is wrong, I feel that it's wrong for everyone, not just me.

    Edit: If someone feels that rape is wrong for them but has no opinion about it being right/wrong for others, that isn't an opinion about morality.
    Last edited by mpg; 05-05-13 at 10:32 AM.
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    RE: morality

    Interesting thought there, mpg. I don't have a like button on BoardExpress or I'd click it.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Yeah, I didn't word that very well. Our morality is shaped by outside forces, but it isn't determined by some inherent natural law or the will of god or anything like that.
    Many people are voting "other", and I'm getting the feeling that they have similar views. I've seen people talk about is an an individual thing. I didn't make that one of the options because it didn't occur to me that people would feel that way. Morality, by definition, is something that applies to everybody, at least within a family, community or culture. If you say that it's wrong for you to rape, but it may or may not be wrong for others, you haven't expressed an opinion about the morality of rape. If you want to express an opinion about the morality of rape, you have to say that it's wrong for everyone or OK for everyone.

    I also noticed that only 1 person said it's a false concept. I expected that to be the most popular choice.
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    Re: morality

    Who would honestly ask if morality exist?

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Immoral to you. Morals are subjective.
    Nope. Definitions of words are subjective, if we forget to agree on vocabulary beforehand (as we always do): you include religious taboos and expressions of disgust in the category "morals", I do not.

    Morality Neomaltusian and I were talking about is quite objective: it is the recognition of human life and human freedom of choice as basic values. When someone is proposing punishments or restrictions on people who did no one any harm and pose no imminent threat to anybody (homosexuals, e.g.) that someone is proposing immoral acts of aggression against innocents - "doing onto others" something he certainly wouldn't want to be "done onto himself".
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    Re: morality

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    Morality, by definition, is something that applies to everybody, at least within a family, community or culture. If you say that it's wrong for you to rape, but it may or may not be wrong for others, you haven't expressed an opinion about the morality of rape. If you want to express an opinion about the morality of rape, you have to say that it's wrong for everyone or OK for everyone.
    That's not really what I mean when I say that morality is subjective. I agree that morals apply to everyone (or should anyway, some people have inconsistent views on that sort of thing). i.e. if I believe it is moral to act a certain way and immoral to act a different way, then I likely believe that is true for everyone. What I mean by morality is subjective is that whether a particular act is moral or immoral depends on who you're asking the question of.

    For example some people believe homosexuality to be immoral, others believe it is moral. Each of those people believes that morality or immorality to apply to everyone, but it is not universally moral or immoral.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    For example some people believe homosexuality to be immoral, others believe it is moral.
    I would suggest that both aren't thinking straight. One group allows a confessional taboo to override basic moral principles, and another finds moral content where there's none: homosexuality is not moral or immoral, it is a sexual preference - a biological condition.

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Each of those people believes that morality or immorality to apply to everyone, but it is not universally moral or immoral. .
    Obviously, people disagree on moral issues, otherwise we would not be having this conversation. It doesn't mean, however, that objective morality does not exist. It simply means that some people discover and accept it, others discover and reject, still others have no clue what to look for or why look at all...
    Last edited by Cyrylek; 05-05-13 at 12:06 PM.

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    There's a subforum for abortion debate.

    What about those who believe our Constitution is too restrictive? Lots of morality involved in it's pages.

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