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  • the laws of a particular society

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  • the laws of God

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  • the laws of nature

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    Re: morality

    Morality is a personal and subjective thing. It's shaped by a number of things, including how we were raised, and the society we live in, but ultimately it's personal. There is no outside force that determines it.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It exists on both.
    If so then society would be scattered all over to accommodate what each persons moral code would state. It exists on laws which may in some cases match up to individual moral standards.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    And the law is the law in a great many places that says gays cannot marry but I don't see you just accepting that, so your position is that gay rights that you were so defending yesterday are not a moral issue.
    It says that abortion is legal and I don't see people laying down and accepting this either. It does not mean we can't disagree with the law. It says that no matter what we believe the law of the land is the rule. Rules can change. So this being said if laws were morals and they can change so to cam morals and it proves my point that morals are only thoughts and personal ideals and subject to change. For me gay rights is not a moral issue at all it is an issue of equality. Abortion is more a moral issue than gay rights. Gay rights is based on equal under the law Abortion is based on a moral belief that the fetus needs to be protected. But in the abortion issue the woman's right to control her body is shoved aside in the thinking of many. But to answer your question gay rights are a disagreement with fair and equal under the law and not a moral issue at all.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    In my view morality is the laws of God and they are absolute.
    This leads to the question once again which god? Which religion takes precedence? Who's god rules? These are all questions when god comes up come into play.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    If so then society would be scattered all over to accommodate what each persons moral code would state. It exists on laws which may in some cases match up to individual moral standards.
    How many different countries are on this world? Like I said earlier, societies are much like individuals.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Morality stems from harm. It's wrong to harm someone. As human society has evolved, this principle has been applied to society as a whole. It's wrong to do something that harms society, and the individual who did so must be punished. And from this you derive all the morality of the world.

    Someone mentioned honour killings, and they're a perfect example of this. Someone has shamed family/society/whatever, so they must be punished.

    It's only the punishment for harming individuals or society that distinguishes one morality from another.
    Honor killings are not punishment. Killing a rape victim is an example of an honor killing. If a woman has been soiled, she must be killed for the honor of the family.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I went with law of nature. I think it is our biology that gives us a meaning for right and wrong. We don't like pain, fear, or loneliness, so right are things that reduce those feelings and wrong are things that increase them. Cooperation is right because it helps us be happy, healthy, and safe. Morality is very much based on physical, corporeal sensations.
    I feel pain from hunger so I steal your food.
    I fear you so I kill you.
    I'm lonely* so I enslave you.


    Morality is learned and, at least by our current standards, requires empathy. There's nothing biological about any given moral except maybe "going along with the group" (*this could also be construed as the opposite of "loneliness"), since community to some extent or other does seem to be a universal trait among all humans and most primates.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    This leads to the question once again which god? Which religion takes precedence? Who's god rules? These are all questions when god comes up come into play.


    The problem with morality in monotheistic societies is that any kind of imagined "natural" morality long ago became extinct and was replaced by a religious morality taken verbatim from an old book. If and how any society/culture can dig itself out of the abyss that is monotheistic religious based morality remains to be seen......................
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    I believe morals are based on individual thought and learning. Since we are calling these morals we find them different per individual. Morals lead us as the person but do not guide the nation or society. The nation and society overrides personal moral by creation of law. What I am discussing is not selfish at all. What I believe is moral or not does not matter with regard to the nation or society. I as you yield our personal moral code up to live in this nation or society and live by it's laws and legal system. Some religions say divorce is wrong and immoral. The law of the land says divorce is legal and so the law of the land wins. Yes the people in the marriage may find this goes against their faith but none the less the law overrides the moral belief orf both or one party and the divorce happens. This just shows that morals as personal belief do not matter in the larger spectrum of the society.
    What if a couple has a terrible marriage and they're both very unhappy, but they stay together purely because they both believe divorce is immoral? In that case, the law doesn't win. There are infinite other examples.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    Morality is a personal and subjective thing. It's shaped by a number of things, including how we were raised, and the society we live in, but ultimately it's personal. There is no outside force that determines it.
    Society and how we're raised are both outside forces.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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