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    Re: morality

    Morality stems from harm. It's wrong to harm someone. As human society has evolved, this principle has been applied to society as a whole. It's wrong to do something that harms society, and the individual who did so must be punished. And from this you derive all the morality of the world.

    Someone mentioned honour killings, and they're a perfect example of this. Someone has shamed family/society/whatever, so they must be punished.

    It's only the punishment for harming individuals or society that distinguishes one morality from another.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Society does not exist on morals it exists on laws.
    It exists on both.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    With in that society, yes. Other societies may of course consider it immoral. A society is much like an individual in that way. Gives a slightly new perspective on the whole "sheeple" comment eh? lol
    Society is based on law unless it is based in religion or a theocracy then it may be based on the moral codes set forth in that religion. Most of the worlds societies are based on laws which the leaders believe are for the good of the nations people. Laws may be thought either moral or not by the people but they are in the end the force which males the society move. In the US abortion is legal many believe this is right and many believe it is wrong. The specific morality in both camps does not matter the law is the law and it overrides the moral discussions.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by captainawesome View Post
    So George Washington was evil as he owned other humans and morality isn't relative.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Some morality is embodied in laws but others are not. It's illegal to park without putting money in the meter but it's not immoral. Many people see pre-marital sex as immoral but it's not illegal.
    Some morality may match with law. This is true but morality does not make the laws. The reason is moral is changeable and subject to a persons own learned belief system.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Society is based on law unless it is based in religion or a theocracy then it may be based on the moral codes set forth in that religion. Most of the worlds societies are based on laws which the leaders believe are for the good of the nations people. Laws may be thought either moral or not by the people but they are in the end the force which males the society move. In the US abortion is legal many believe this is right and many believe it is wrong. The specific morality in both camps does not matter the law is the law and it overrides the moral discussions.
    And the law is the law in a great many places that says gays cannot marry but I don't see you just accepting that, so your position is that gay rights that you were so defending yesterday are not a moral issue.

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    Re: morality

    In my view morality is the laws of God and they are absolute.
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    Re: morality

    Morality is individual and nothing more. They are beliefs any person may have or not have depending on what they have learned or experienced. They in essence do not exist beyond an individuals thoughts. Laws are the governing factor in a society. These laws make individual morals obsolete. If society were based on morals it would be in chaos as we all believe differently. Even based on religion everyone does not follow every rule in their bible. Foe every religion there is a different god or goddess. We can't even say their is one. So the legal system steps in and determines what will function as law and this is the guide for the nation. Everyone must conform to this legal standard and not what they personally believe. There fore morality goes out the window and law takes its place.
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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    In my view morality is the laws of God and they are absolute.


    Correct. "Morality" as it is understood in the Western world consists of the laws of God and to adhere to those laws is part of the worship of God. As I don't believe in "God", I also don't go thru the motions of worshipping him (re; I am not a "moral" person). And I love it.................

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    Re: morality

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Do you believe morals are some part of the collective? If so, why? If not, why do you think their decisions matter on morality itself? If you ask me, to the most part these decisions you talk of are almost entirely selfish in nature and while the trend is desirable the everyday affairs are not.
    I believe morals are based on individual thought and learning. Since we are calling these morals we find them different per individual. Morals lead us as the person but do not guide the nation or society. The nation and society overrides personal moral by creation of law. What I am discussing is not selfish at all. What I believe is moral or not does not matter with regard to the nation or society. I as you yield our personal moral code up to live in this nation or society and live by it's laws and legal system. Some religions say divorce is wrong and immoral. The law of the land says divorce is legal and so the law of the land wins. Yes the people in the marriage may find this goes against their faith but none the less the law overrides the moral belief orf both or one party and the divorce happens. This just shows that morals as personal belief do not matter in the larger spectrum of the society.
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