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    An Atheist President?

    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    No, we don't need everybody to forsake their religion to hold public office. That would be a violation of their Constitutional rights.

    I also don't think that being an atheist should disqualify someone from being President. In fact, I suspect we've kind of got one now. He's not overly religious at any rate. Judge by the man, not by whether or not he believes in God.


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    Re: An Atheist President?

    1. Since religion is neither the only nor most important issue in this country, determining whether or not someone would be "the ideal choice to lead the country" solely according to whether or not they "uphold the separation of Church and State" is not a good idea. There are many other abilities that a president needs to have.

    2. Atheists are not necessarily better at dealing with religion fairly than theists. Sam Harris comes to mind as an atheist who, if president, would do as much harm to the relationship between religion and the state many Christians would. For those who don't know, Sam Harris is a very ... vocal atheist who endorses prejudice and discrimination against Muslims because he irrationality ties all Muslims to groups like al Qaeda. Richard Dawkins behaves similarly.

    There are also atheists who are, in my opinion, excessively hostile towards Christianity and Christians. There are also atheists who, again in my opinion, are excessively hostile towards all religions, religious people and theists, in general. I would not want those people in any political position anymore than I want religious people in office who think government should be a theocracy.

    In short, no, an atheist - simply because he or she is an atheist - would not be an ideal president. An ideal president has to have many qualities and such a president could certainly be an atheist, but their atheism, in itself, is not enough to make it so.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    The freedom of religion is a constitutional guarantee, but holding public office is not.

    Just as an atheist shouldn't be a preacher, an evangelical (for example) shouldn't be able to hold the office of president. Especially since that ideology guarantees favouritism to other nations.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

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    There are also atheists who are, in my opinion, excessively hostile towards Christianity and Christians.
    Obviously you wouldn't dig up Hitchens have him run for office, nor am I advocating that any angry atheist would make a good candidate.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    Atheists are the least electable class of them all, behind gays and muslims. If there were physical signs that one were an atheist, we would be amongst the most discriminated groups.
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Canada recently changed its policy of neutrality regarding Israel/Palestine because their PM is an Evangelical, much to the chagrin of most Canadians.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Obviously you wouldn't dig up Hitchens have him run for office, nor am I advocating that any angry atheist would make a good candidate.
    I don't know why you're claiming that that is "obvious". I have no idea what your positions are so nothing is "obvious" unless you state it. Now, you asked whether or not an atheist would be the ideal candidate. You didn't specify which "type" of atheists you would include or exclude from consideration. You just said "atheist." My answer again, is that an atheist's atheism, is not, in itself enough to qualify a person to be president. I gave my reasons already.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    No. We have religious freedom in this country. It's unconstitutional to force someone to forsake their religion. It's also not a violation of separation of Church and State to have people of faith in power.

    Also, the "ideal" choice is the one in my view that most closely matches my beliefs and has a good track record. Their religion is irrelevant.
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    I do not care what religion a president is even if he has none. What is important is where he stands on the issues that are important to me. Religion or non-religion is irrelevant. Separation of church and state is a phrase Chief Justice Warren dreamed up. It is not mentioned in the Constitution. I have no problem with a president who would come on TV lets say after 9-11 and say let's pray for those who were lost or he might say let's have a moment of silence for those who where lost or any variation of saying as long as it would start the healing process and pay respect.

    Now I do not expect a president to try to force his moral values on me or a president who would try to force his non-moral values on me. I want a president who will balance the budget and get this countries back on solid financial ground.
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