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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    He in no way favors discrimination.
    "We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim, and we should be honest about it." - Sam Harris

    He is challenging the religion's radical nature, which is not practiced by all Muslims, but which we have seen practiced to the tune of 9/11. It is just as important that radical Christian practices should be challenged. Criticising any belief system which has the potential for violence should be paramount in public discourse. Religion has been shielded by a false belief that it is not allowed to be challenged. Every area of discourse known to man should be challenged and criticized. Open and honest discussion is the only way to progress as a society.
    I don't have any problem with criticizing religion, as I said.

    And btw, I know nothing about you, so that first post of yours was very misleading.
    No, my post was clear. You misread it which is fine since we all do that from time to time.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    I would never vote for an atheist.

    However, atheists already have a political party.... the Democratic Party.

    I would probably be a Democrat if not for their hostility toward Christians.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    At least for the highest office. That includes Muslims, if its any consolation.
    What other jobs would you bar us from?

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post


    Do you know what the evangelical faith is all about?
    Please tell me. Bah, I'm an evangelical myself, albeit a progressive one, but still counts.

    Can't say I'm in the mood for sweeping generalizations, but I'm curious as to what you're going to say. So yes, tell me what evangelicals are all about.

    I want to hear this -- well, read.
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Please tell me.
    Evangelicals believe in a literal reading of the Bible. Unless you're an EINO.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    What other jobs would you bar us from?
    Any position where my rights are subject to your faith.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?

    Our Constitution specifically forbids any "religious test" for office. That would include a test of not having any religion, so this is a non-starter.

    In brief, hell no.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    This is funny Pasch. You're trying to convince me that atheists would not seek to pass laws antagonistic to religion all while saying I'd totally deserve it and have it coming if they did. You can't tell me that someone with that much hostility wouldn't take the opportunity every so often to "stick it" to those of us you refer to as evil (I didn't know atheists believed in the concept of "evil"). The OP of this very thread would bar Christians from holding public office. Wonder what other jobs he'd keep us out of.
    You would deserve it. But I'm the "take the moral high road" type. I also know that I would fight to protect intellectual liberty, even for people who think that I deserve to burn forever in a lake of fire for refusing to join their club. I don't believe that two wrongs make a right. I don't think that a cure for violence and oppression is more violence and oppression. The constitution absolutely prohibits what the OP is calling for and I have stressed the important of intellectual freedom many many many times. But I will also say, loudly, that theists and wrong and why they are wrong. My commitment to truth and justice demands nothing less.

    Yes, because everything you've ever said about religion and the religious has been nothing but reasoned criticism. Tell me again how delusional and insane I am. It's funny you bring up global warming. I think that's as much of a religion as anything and it's believers sure as hell do want to pass laws enforcing their own morality. For some reason though, that's ok with you.
    Except, you know... facts. There are facts that inform laws about environmentalism, and none that inform laws enforcing religious morality. Since you didn't answer the question or seem to be able to talk about climate change as an example, let's use biology. Religious Christians try to require that religion be taught in science classrooms. No atheist has ever tried to force a Sunday school bible class to include atheism. Is that hostility to point that out? Is it hostility to require that only science be taught in a science classroom?

    Let's go even more basic. "I oppose Christianity* because the bible condones slavery." Hostility or criticism? Cuz I'm pretty sure there is no sentence that includes "I oppose Christianity because..." that will be viewed as criticism and not hostility.

    *And Judaism and Islam.
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Any position where my rights are subject to your faith.
    People have belief in all sorts of things, not just religion, and are always trying to pass laws imposing those beliefs on others. Religion is no different and no worse.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Our Constitution specifically forbids any "religious test" for office. That would include a test of not having any religion, so this is a non-starter.

    In brief, hell no.
    And yet Christians insist on this very test.

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