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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Good thing I'm not advocating for a president who hates religion.
    No, you wouldn't do something like that. You would just make it illegal for Christians run for office.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Voted no, I don't think an atheist would be ideal for the presidency. It wouldn't be easy for an atheist to get elected, no doubt.

    However, I personally would vote for an atheist candidate if he/she is qualified and tolerant. All those anti-theists, just to add, are a massive no -- can't stand people like that. They're in the same boat as extreme right Christian fundamentalists for me.

    The OP's posts are unsettling though, example of an atheist that wouldn't be fit to hold public office in this country. An evangelical can't run for office, what? Let freedom ring. *sigh*

    I wonder how an agnostic would fare.
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No, you wouldn't do something like that. You would just make it illegal for Christians run for office.
    At least for the highest office. That includes Muslims, if its any consolation.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    However, I personally would vote for an atheist candidate if he/she is qualified and tolerant. All those anti-theists, just to add, are a massive no -- can't stand people like that. They're in the same boat as extreme right Christian fundamentalists for me.
    Explain.

    An evangelical can't run for office, what? Let freedom ring. *sigh*
    Do you know what the evangelical faith is all about?

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And this type of hostility is what would make me seriously pause before I'd vote for an atheist. Politically active atheists often seem especially angry and hostile to religion. It would worry me that he'd want to outlaw my beliefs or something.
    Would you worry that I would do that? Despite my saying over and over and over, including in the post that you quoted, that I wouldn't. Politically active theists seem especially angry and hostile to non-religion, and to scientific learning. It does worry me that they would want to outlaw non-belief, as they frequently try to do this. Maybe if theists, as the group in power, want to change this dynamic, then they should take the first step and reach out in compromise. How about officially amending the seven state constitutions that expressly prohibit non-believers from holding office? How about if North Carolina stopped trying to establish an official religion? If that is something you're afraid, then too bad for you, because you reap what you sow. Lucky for you, though, there are basically no prominent atheists who support outlawing of religion. The very fact that one of the prominent atheist movements is called "Freethinking" should tip you off to the whole "freedom of thought and religion" idea that even those who think religion is evil and that we'd all be better off without it, still prefer intellectual freedom over enforced anything.

    Also, that you conflate simple criticism with hostility makes it difficult to take this position seriously. Is this sentence hostile or critical: "Refusing to take the threat of climate change seriously because you think that god won't let the world change on us is a dangerous and unfounded position to take."
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Explain.



    Do you know what the evangelical faith is all about?
    There are what I call evangelical atheists. Those who argue atheism with all the same fervor of an evangelical preacher.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    An Agnostic would be the best choice IMHO. Believing or not believing in invisible gods is a sign of insanity. Agnostics are realistic and logical, all the rest are either liars or fools.
    "Agnostic" is a weasel word. Most atheists are "agnostics" in this sense: of course believing that there's no gods is a mental disorder, not any kind of -ism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    "Agnostic" is a weasel word. Most atheists are "agnostics" in this sense: of course believing that there's no gods is a mental disorder, not any kind of -ism.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Would you worry that I would do that? Despite my saying over and over and over, including in the post that you quoted, that I wouldn't. Politically active theists seem especially angry and hostile to non-religion, and to scientific learning. It does worry me that they would want to outlaw non-belief, as they frequently try to do this. Maybe if theists, as the group in power, want to change this dynamic, then they should take the first step and reach out in compromise. How about officially amending the seven state constitutions that expressly prohibit non-believers from holding office? How about if North Carolina stopped trying to establish an official religion? If that is something you're afraid, then too bad for you, because you reap what you sow. Lucky for you, though, there are basically no prominent atheists who support outlawing of religion. The very fact that one of the prominent atheist movements is called "Freethinking" should tip you off to the whole "freedom of thought and religion" idea that even those who think religion is evil and that we'd all be better off without it, still prefer intellectual freedom over enforced anything.
    This is funny Pasch. You're trying to convince me that atheists would not seek to pass laws antagonistic to religion all while saying I'd totally deserve it and have it coming if they did. You can't tell me that someone with that much hostility wouldn't take the opportunity every so often to "stick it" to those of us you refer to as evil (I didn't know atheists believed in the concept of "evil"). The OP of this very thread would bar Christians from holding public office. Wonder what other jobs he'd keep us out of.

    Also, that you conflate simple criticism with hostility makes it difficult to take this position seriously. Is this sentence hostile or critical: "Refusing to take the threat of climate change seriously because you think that god won't let the world change on us is a dangerous and unfounded position to take."
    Yes, because everything you've ever said about religion and the religious has been nothing but reasoned criticism. Tell me again how delusional and insane I am. It's funny you bring up global warming. I think that's as much of a religion as anything and it's believers sure as hell do want to pass laws enforcing their own morality. For some reason though, that's ok with you.

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