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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Wasn't Jefferson basically an atheist?
    No. He was strongly influenced by deist thought.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And yet, simply because we are atheists, we are the most unelectable people in the country. So all those are arguments that you gave are rather moot, and I must ask that if you believe the reverse is true as well; for there is most certainly symmetry breaking in the dealing of theists and atheists in this country and I wonder if y'all have ever even given that any mind.
    That most Americans don't want to elect atheists doesn't make my arguments moot, it makes the question in the OP moot because it presumes that atheists are electable at all. I gave my answers simply with the context of this thread and its question. Since my arguments are direct answers to the OP's question, they are far from moot in that context. With that in mind, please take out your angst on someone who cares about it. I don't.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    The question wasn't whether or not atheists are electable, TPD. You've mooted yourself.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Sam Harris is an extremely intelligent person who sheds light on the nature of Islamic radical beliefs and people who observe them. He is always respectful. If you think disrespect is challenging religion in public discourse then you are just the type of person who he is trying to reach.

    Would you rather have George W. Bush in office than an atheist?

    Every quality you need to have as a president, you can have outside of religion.
    I never said he wasn't intelligent. However, I don't consider Sam Harris any more respectful of Islam than I consider Peter King respectful of Islam. He is prejudiced and favors discrimination. That is as impermissible to me as prejudice and discrimination against gays by many Christians. And no, I don't think challenging religion in public discourse is, in itself, disrespectful. As someone who rejects much of religion and finds devout belief in it to be nonsensical for a variety of reasons, such a characterization of me is laughable and reflects only upon your own sensitivities towards criticism of atheists.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    The question wasn't whether or not atheists are electable, TPD. You've mooted yourself.
    Take that up with Ikari. He is the one who brought up electability. I just answered his criticism of my post.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Does it make any more sense than having religion play a role in secular policy?
    No, it doesn't. That's one of the reasons your position is so stupid.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    An atheist president is not realistic. Americans are, generally, too bigoted for this to be a possibility in the foreseeable future. This is regrettable.

    But your idea is wrong. Requiring a politician to forsake religion is unconstitutional, as there is no religious test permitted for office. And rightfully so.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    I don't really care, just as I don't like a religious person wearing it on their sleeve, I wouldn't want a atheist to do that either. The are many traditions based upon religion, like a national day of prayer, Christmas, Easter, etc. the president gets involved with that it would be difficult serving.


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    Re: An Atheist President?

    This thread reminds me of threads where Christians get aggressive and defensive when people criticize their religion. It's amusing when some atheists behave exactly in the ways that they condemn. I think I get the best of both worlds by being a non-religious theist.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    No, it doesn't. That's one of the reasons your position is so stupid.
    My position is that people of reason and rationality should be in positions of leadership. You find that stupid?

    I'd warn against calling me names, btw. I am sensitive.

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