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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Sorry, I left my strobe lights at the other parade.



    Evangelical In Name Only.
    Pretty much nothing of substance to say with your so called knowledge of what evangelicals are all about, hmmm.

    Ah, I see.
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    "We should profile Muslims, or anyone who looks like he or she could conceivably be Muslim, and we should be honest about it." - Sam Harris


    I don't have any problem with criticizing religion, as I said.


    No, my post was clear. You misread it which is fine since we all do that from time to time.
    Profiling is a necessary and unavoidable issue when faced with preventing events like 9/11 if we are to believe there is a radical Ilsamic sect which is trying to harm our citizens. I too have no problem criticizing religion.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    I would happily vote for an atheist president if he or she best represented my positions, but it certainly shouldn't be a requirement for office.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Van Basten View Post
    Pretty much nothing of substance to say with your so called knowledge of what evangelicals are all about, hmmm.

    Ah, I see.
    What is the Evangelical faith all about? I guess I need some education. Let me have it.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Um. No. Agnostics wonder if there's a god. They aren't sure. Atheists are sure.
    How can anybody be sure about non-existence of anything? Especially something so poorly defined? Most atheists are not complete idiots.

    When used properly, the word "agnostic" applies to the notion that there some things or beings are unknowable in principle, at least by human mind. To quote from Bertrand Russell's What is an Agnostic?, "An agnostic thinks it impossible to know the truth in matters such as God and the future life with which Christianity and other religions are concerned".I see no reason to subscribe to such strange idea, therefore I am not an agnostic.

    Likewise, I am not going to believe in anything or anyone without some empirical evidence. That makes me an atheist, if "anyone" in question is God.

    I understand that the destructive madness of Soviet "atheists" (fanatical believers in "no God" and a whole bunch of other crazy stuff) made a lasting impression, and some of us prefer to be called something else; "agnostics" sounds vague and harmless enough (kind of like American social-democrats prefer to be called (just as illogically) "liberals"). But it only leads to confusion.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    Americans are the most conflicted country in the world when it comes to religion and government. You just can't make up your minds. You want a President who doesn't follow his faith when making decisions for a nation of mulitple faiths and no faith at all. Yet, you go out of your way to ensure that your choice is a man/woman of faith. Until you mature in your own minds you'll never have an atheist President.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    I would happily vote for an atheist president if he or she best represented my positions, but it certainly shouldn't be a requirement for office.
    I noticed the Huntsman endorsement. He's a great candidate for a Republican.

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    Re: An Atheist President?

    what about both gay atheist black and woman ?
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amadeus View Post
    Wouldn't an atheist president be the ideal choice to lead the country? In fact, shouldn't we require our elected officials to forsake religion in order to better serve us and uphold the separation of Church and State?
    what you need is not an atheist president but a real secularist
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    Re: An Atheist President?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    How can anybody be sure about non-existence of anything? Especially something so poorly defined? Most atheists are not complete idiots.
    The same way anybody can be sure about the opposite. Intelligent people have taken definitive positions on both sides of the question.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    I understand that the destructive madness of Soviet "atheists" (fanatical believers in "no God" and a whole bunch of other crazy stuff) made a lasting impression, and some of us prefer to be called something else; "agnostics" sounds vague and harmless enough (kind of like American social-democrats prefer to be called (just as illogically) "liberals"). But it only leads to confusion.
    I'm of the opinion that many people who call themselves atheists are actually apatheists.

    Aside from that, I do not recognize the distinction between the belief in a lack and the lack of a belief when the label of atheism is employed as anything more than a split hair.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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