View Poll Results: Should society dissuade incompetent people from producing children?

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  • No, reproduction is sacrosanct, people have absolute freedom to reproduce and make others raise them

    11 45.83%
  • Yes/no, mandatory reproductive control for only the most severely/permanently disabled

    4 16.67%
  • Yes/no, offer money for sterilization and/or long-term birth control measures

    8 33.33%
  • Yes/no, mandatory birth control and/or sterilization for active severe substance addicts

    4 16.67%
  • Yes, require some sort of permit for having children

    2 8.33%
  • Sort of, implement two-child policy

    2 8.33%
  • Other (explain)

    4 16.67%
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Thread: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

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    Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    Try to suspend auto-outrage before answering and responding.

    Every state has an administrative agency charged with temporarily suspending, and/or petitioning for extinguishment of, parental rights if those parents neglect their children's basic needs.

    The act of producing a child generates a legal obligation to provide for its basic needs. Failure to do so can result in the extinguishment of parental rights. Therefore, a person who is fertile but otherwise has demonstrable inability to provide basic minimum care to the child is capable creating a financial and legal liability that it can transfer onto others without their consent.

    Why do taxpayers have to stand by and watch as people produce liabilities that they can shovel off onto others? How is this justifiable, and what should be done about it?

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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    Long story short, no. If you look at many of the great minds, the real geniuses, those who nudged scientific and societal progress, they were not all from educated/intelligent parents. Dumb parents can produce intelligent children, and smart parents can produce unintelligent children. Human rights to procreation should never be acquiesced into abstaining from having children. This is borderline eugenics, a theory that marginally improves the collective intelligence of humanity, while removing what actually makes us human in the process "I.E, morals".
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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    Given the previous track-record of posts from you on this subject (cleverly coded into your poll options), I preemptively struck a stringent "no."
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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Why do taxpayers have to stand by and watch as people produce liabilities that they can shovel off onto others? How is this justifiable, and what should be done about it?
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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    No, reproduction is sacrosanct, people have absolute freedom to reproduce and make others raise them

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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    I think people that have children that they can't financially support should be sterilized immediately and that child removed from their home

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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I think people that have children that they can't financially support should be sterilized immediately and that child removed from their home
    First, in an effort to save texts, read my signature. Second, do you have even the slightest idea what kind of psychological trauma that would be created by taking a child's parents, and butchering them would cause on the child? That's a great way to create a misanthropic terrorist that's bent on destroying the state that took away his most direct means of feeling love, affection, and purpose.
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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    First, in an effort to save texts, read my signature. Second, do you have even the slightest idea what kind of psychological trauma that would be created by taking a child's parents, and butchering them would cause on the child? That's a great way to create a misanthropic terrorist that's bent on destroying the state that took away his most direct means of feeling love, affection, and purpose.
    who said any thing about butchering the parents? Are you drunk?

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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    I'll go with no just because the other choices are terrible.

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    Re: Should society dissuade people from reproducing children they can't raise? How?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Try to suspend auto-outrage before answering and responding.

    Every state has an administrative agency charged with temporarily suspending, and/or petitioning for extinguishment of, parental rights if those parents neglect their children's basic needs.

    The act of producing a child generates a legal obligation to provide for its basic needs. Failure to do so can result in the extinguishment of parental rights. Therefore, a person who is fertile but otherwise has demonstrable inability to provide basic minimum care to the child is capable creating a financial and legal liability that it can transfer onto others without their consent.

    Why do taxpayers have to stand by and watch as people produce liabilities that they can shovel off onto others? How is this justifiable, and what should be done about it?
    I'll suspend my "auto-outrage" but I will note that I remember there was a time when society sterilized the mentally ill. I would hope that even if individual members of society haven't sufficiently evolved, at least society as a whole has.
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