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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    A Former US Attorney (now Judge) I know once said to me

    I think some people need frying but I don't like having a government with the power to fry people
    A sutable compromise, then, is to make sure every potential victim can kill an attacker in the act.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    A sutable compromise, then, is to make sure every potential victim can kill an attacker in the act.
    I agree, I have no problems with those feloniously attacked killing the attacker, In fact I believe in making civil or criminal courts inaccessible for criminals who have the tables turned on them as long as the retaliation is reasonably connected to the attack

    example John The pervert tries to rape little 9 year old Suzie. Suzie's Green Beret older brother catches John the Pervert in the act and spends the next hour breaking every bone in the pervert's body

    no legal ramifications for Sgt Brother


    John the Pervert rapes little Suzy and the good Sgt sees the rapist 5 years later after he gets out for "good behavior" from the state pen. Then it would be improper for big brother to "Mozambique" the perv.



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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think in some cases-like the two who raped and murdered a woman, raped and burned her daughters to death and there was absolutely no doubt of their guilt (CT), the surviving husband/father should be given three hours, a blowtorch, crowbar and a complete pardon for all that transpires in that 3 hours
    Call it revenge or whatever you want but I don't see anything wrong with that statement. I remember that case. The two men were pure evil and no longer members of the human race. F em.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I am against the death penalty in general and would not endorse it here.
    Should they also receive a cash reward? Or just rewarded with never have to work another day in their life and be entirely provided for - for free - in everyway - for the rest of their lives?

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    Call it revenge or whatever you want but I don't see anything wrong with that statement. I remember that case. The two men were pure evil and no longer members of the human race. F em.
    I clicked like, but actually I oppose torturous justice - certainly on a govermental level. I would approve of him pulling the level on the gallows, throwing the switch on the electric chair, pushing the button that injected poison, declaring "FIRE!" for a firing squad, or the left that dropped the bag for being gassed to death.

    On the otherhand, if the father, mother or anyone other relative found that man - then I would go not-guilty-by-reason of temporary sanity if that relative used a blow torch and crowbar.


    In my opinion, a "life sentence without parole' is grotesquelyl immoral, is rewarding the crime and preventing justice and legitimate retribution.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    If you are ok with mob "justice", just be aware that you won't be able to stop the mob once it's lose..................

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I clicked like, but actually I oppose torturous justice - certainly on a govermental level. I would approve of him pulling the level on the gallows, throwing the switch on the electric chair, pushing the button that injected poison, declaring "FIRE!" for a firing squad, or the left that dropped the bag for being gassed to death.

    On the otherhand, if the father, mother or anyone other relative found that man - then I would go not-guilty-by-reason of temporary sanity if that relative used a blow torch and crowbar.


    In my opinion, a "life sentence without parole' is grotesquelyl immoral, is rewarding the crime and preventing justice and legitimate retribution.
    We will never see the day that the court provides the victim's relative a certain amount of time in a locked room with a criminal.

    But if the victim's family caught the perp in the act of such a horrendous crime then by all means if he is able to have the upperhand then he should unleash hell on the criminal. If I lost my wife and two daughters were raped and burned to death then I really care less what the court decided on my life as my life would already be over.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Don't worry, we don't decome murderers when we exicute for capitol ofences.
    Sure we do, if we sanction killing of a neutralized, locked-up criminal - and an occasional wrongfully accused.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyMoonlight View Post
    I do not understand the mentality of someone who advocates life in prison over execution of a criminal.
    OK, if it needs an elaboration.

    1. The authority to end a human life (outside of immediate defensive measures) sacralizes the State and creates a huge moral hazard.

    2. Every system of justice works with errors: with death penalty on the books, the cost of these unavoidable errors becomes impermissible.

    3. The actual cost of going through all the motions leading to an execution is much higher than keeping the criminal in prison for life.

    4. When death penalty is on the books, there's always temptation and pressure to expand it beyond sentences for murder; we already have a federal law allowing death penalty for "drug kingpins" who did not kill anyone. This is a slippery slope to Hell.

    5. I don't believe that death penalty is an efficient deterrent. Or rather, it is, but in the cases unlikely to result in capital punishment. Most murders are committed by youths living their violent lives without any thought of consequences, or by maniacs, or in a fit of fury.

    6. Death penalty is based on the concept of justice I find reprehensible: revenge is not justice. Nobody can understand another person's mind closely enough to know what this person actually "deserves". The function of justice ought to be protective, not retaliatory. Someone who had committed a murder had proven that he is dangerous to other people, and he should be locked up for good. But killing an apprehended, neutralized criminal serves no real purpose other than satisfying the darkest of our natural urges.

    The list can be continued....
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Sure we do, if we sanction killing of a neutralized, locked-up criminal - and an occasional wrongfully accused.
    Nope, not at all.

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