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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    The only time I support the death penalty is when another life has been taken. Rape and pedophilia are absolutely atrocious acts, but unless they killed someone I don't think the guilty person should be put to death.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    The problem with that statement is that punishment isn't wrong.
    Sure ain't, necessary in fact. Though I haven't heard anyone claim that we should have zero punishment. However, there is proper punishment and there are demographics of systems enacted and we know from measurement that the death penalty has no real deterrent effect, has no real additional public safety beyond what life in prison provides, consumes a lot of money and lives, including innocent lives. Given the failure mechanisms of the death penalty, the costs involved, and the zero affect it has on deterrence, prison population, prison violence, and societal safety; there's really no logical reason left to have it.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Killing someone isn't a punishment. It is just killing them. They are not alive anymore, so there is no "punishment." The only people who are punished are the perpetrators family and children.
    There's a reason it's called the death penalty. Look up the definition of penalty or read the first sentence of the Wiki page on punishment:
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    If the family of the perpetrator are hurt by it then they truly have the perpetrator to blame.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    There's a reason it's called the death penalty. Look up the definition of penalty or read the first sentence of the Wiki page on punishment:
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    If the family of the perpetrator are hurt by it then they truly have the perpetrator to blame.
    I know what the word "penalty" means.

    Just because it's called "the death penalty" doesn't mean it's a penalty. Okay, maybe it is a penalty up UNTIL the time of the inmate's death. Then, it no longer counts as a penalty because he/she can't feel anything on this earth anymore.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Killing someone isn't a punishment. It is just killing them. They are not alive anymore, so there is no "punishment." The only people who are punished are the perpetrators family and children.
    From a moral standpoint, I agree with you. However, we cannot afford to do every moral action we are capable of in this world. As extreme as it may sound, I am for more death penalties. carried out swiftly rather than the unbearable time frames they have to wait. It would save so much money, but for anyone who commits first degree crimes against others in society, that are deemed nonredeemable... Let's put them out of our misery... And fast!

    We shouldn't bother housing and feeding dangerous animals in prison. They just corrupt the redeemable prisoners.

    Besides, once dead, they can never harm society again.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    From a moral standpoint, I agree with you. However, we cannot afford to do every moral action we are capable of in this world. As extreme as it may sound, I am for more death penalties. carried out swiftly rather than the unbearable time frames they have to wait. It would save so much money, but for anyone who commits first degree crimes against others in society, that are deemed nonredeemable... Let's put them out of our misery... And fast!

    We shouldn't bother housing and feeding dangerous animals in prison. They just corrupt the redeemable prisoners.

    Besides, once dead, they can never harm society again.
    That will never happen though because of the back load of cases in the appeals process, which is very long and drawn out to make sure every T is crossed. Unfortunately, they still don't get it right sometimes. How can you trust the government with such a job?

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That will never happen though because of the back load of cases in the appeals process, which is very long and drawn out to make sure every T is crossed. Unfortunately, they still don't get it right sometimes. How can you trust the government with such a job?
    Mistakes happen, but I think life in prison is less humane than the death penalty.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Mistakes happen, but I think life in prison is less humane than the death penalty.
    That depends entirely upon the person I think.

    There are actually people who have grown up in the prison system and feel perfectly comfortable living under those circumstances. My ideas involve changing the prison system entirely though.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That depends entirely upon the person I think.

    There are actually people who have grown up in the prison system and feel perfectly comfortable living under those circumstances. My ideas involve changing the prison system entirely though.
    Good luck with that.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Good luck with that.
    Well, I would like to, not that it would ever happen.

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