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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    So if a woman is jogging down the street and a rapist drags her into the bushes, holds a knife to her throat and rapes her you would equate that to a woman that goes into a dorm room with a bunch of guys and takes drugs and drinks until she passes out? Both those women are just the same?
    Why don't you tell us all the difference in your opinion? Because the latter rape is easier to pull off? The easier it is to rape a woman the less serious it is? I suppose then you'd say the least serious is against little children as they are the easiest of all. Maybe severely mental diabled women are less serious?

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Okay, but that still doesn't justify the state-sponsored murder, or more accurately tax-payer sponsored.
    Government is a societies' means of applied force. I do not trust government with very much and while I would not eliminate the death penalty I believe that a fully informed jury can be trusted to apply the death penalty when appropriate. Also by definition if there is legal sanction for killing someone it is not considered murder.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    The news on the girls in Ohio being chained to the ceiling for ten years and keeping them in bondage as sexual slaves. I'm sorry, those SOBs need to die and stop contaminating the air the rest of us have tho breathe. The one argument I can accept however is they might be dead if they knew they would get the death penalty so why keep them alive to testify against you one day.
    Imprison them for at least 3 decades would be appropriate for the false imprisonment and life for the forced co-habitation. The captives were forced into a marriage relationship and I do not know if that can be considered rape in this case. I wonder what sort of background the accused have to do such a thing (they are brothers).
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Imprison them for at least 3 decades would be appropriate for the false imprisonment and life for the forced co-habitation. The captives were forced into a marriage relationship and I do not know if that can be considered rape in this case. I wonder what sort of background the accused have to do such a thing (they are brothers).
    I know, the emotional outrage of what these ladies went through is a big part of it. Good question. I wonder now about their own upbringing, which is still no excuse but understanding root causes and motivations is a good thing in terms of figuring out the psychological issues that can lead to crimes like this.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I would say putting them in jail for life is worse.

    Imagine, knowing you didn't do the crime everyone thinks you did?
    It's worse to live - with a chance to prove your innocence and become free?

    Every year hundreds are released from death-row purely because they were able, in some fashion, to prove their innocence. . .there's no greater injustice than to deny them that chance.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's worse to live - with a chance to prove your innocence and become free?

    Every year hundreds are released from death-row purely because they were able, in some fashion, to prove their innocence. . .there's no greater injustice than to deny them that chance.
    It is not that they are released, and they do not "prove their innocence". However, if I am wrong I would absolutely love to see a verifyable reference to this.

    I would say at most that maybe a dozen or so get their sentences reduced.

    But I would readuly admit I am wrong here, if you can give me a reference.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    It is not that they are released, and they do not "prove their innocence". However, if I am wrong I would absolutely love to see a verifyable reference to this.

    I would say at most that maybe a dozen or so get their sentences reduced.

    But I would readuly admit I am wrong here, if you can give me a reference.
    I believe I already provided a link to that information. Here's a different link.

    Innocence and the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Serious View Post
    Government is a societies' means of applied force. I do not trust government with very much and while I would not eliminate the death penalty I believe that a fully informed jury can be trusted to apply the death penalty when appropriate. Also by definition if there is legal sanction for killing someone it is not considered murder.
    Are you serious? Do you remember the Casey Anthony trial? How about the OJ Simpson trial? Good God, yes juries are always trust-worthy and make appropriate decisions.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I believe I already provided a link to that information. Here's a different link.

    Innocence and the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center
    Thank you.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Thank you.

    Death row is a strange fish - it takes so much time, money and effort to reach the point of execution - that most on death row never will be executed.
    No problem Auntie.

    Yup, many will most likely die of natural causes first.

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