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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    That is not justice, that is vengeance.

    What next, stoning women that want a divorce? Burning people alive because they change religions or are homosexuals?
    your being silly..i have nothing against normal homos...it's the other Homos i worry about....and whats religion got to do with it....

    and to be honest trannies sometimes turn me on..guys seem to be able somehow to look more sexy than women do..it's like they know things

    i think the two real religions christianity and jewish stuff being the original and real ones should be honoured for being such....

    society forgets about that

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Dr.Who~ View Post
    your being silly..i have nothing against normal homos...it's the other Homos i worry about....and whats religion got to do with it....
    What other homosexuals??

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Dr.Who~ View Post
    your being silly..i have nothing against normal homos...it's the other Homos i worry about....and whats religion got to do with it....

    and to be honest trannies sometimes turn me on..guys seem to be able somehow to look more sexy than women do..it's like they know things

    i think the two real religions christianity and jewish stuff being the original and real ones should be honoured for being such....

    society forgets about that


    I told you to stay away from those girly sheman types....................

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Dr.Who~ View Post
    your being silly..i have nothing against normal homos...it's the other Homos i worry about....and whats religion got to do with it....
    Ahh, "normal homos". What about "normal spics" or "normal nigrs"? Are they OK as well?

    And since you seem to single out homos, what about heterosexual pedophiles, are they OK as well?

    And I said nothing about religion itself, I said changing religion. Because in most ancient cultures (as well as some renditions of modern ones), that is known as "apostasy", and deserving of death.

    And I assure you, I was not being silly at all. However, I find it rather humorous that I am the one taking the "liberal" stance here, while somebody who claims to be a "centrist" is in favor of barbarism.

    I wonder how many others are getting the irony.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Pedophiles don't get better and they have devastated a child's life not to mention devastating the entire family. Rapist have violated a womans rights in the most despicable fashion possible and scarred her for life. The impact of these crimes on children, their parents and women are so grievous that IMO the perpetrates should get the death penalty. Not only would this be justice but the incidents of rape and child molesting-rape would plummet.
    and then there's drug abusers who put kids at risk and non sexual child abusers . . . and so on.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    I'm aware that sex criminals have a high recurrence rate, but for me to say I approve of the death penalty means I am saying that not one single rapist or pedophile is capable of changing or at least suppressing their nature. And I don't think I can do that. In my own life I've met people who have been choosing such dark paths in their lives that I didn't want to know them anymore, and then years later I bumped into them and they were completely different people. I've seen people who I thought could NEVER change and then they did.

    The other issue of course is whether or not the accused is actually guilty. The death penalty does not have a perfect track record. It is stained with the blood of innocents. For that reason alone I can't sanction it, but even if I put that aside, I think that surely some rapists or pedophiles must be capable of changing. They deserve prison time, but maybe the right person in the right situation could turn it around.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialEngineer View Post
    Appeal to popularity is a great emotional argument, but it doesn't really make for good policy if the rest of the world is going to hell in a hand basket. If Iran and Afghanistan have a public policy problem regarding rape, it's how they define rape, not in how they enforce the law against it.

    As for people being punished after being wrongly accused, it's the general attitude of most societies that use the death penalty, that it's better for ten guilty people to go free than for one innocent person to be put to death. In engineering terms, it means setting up the system where avoiding false positives is a priority, at the expense of allowing a higher proportion of false negatives. It's a pretty good policy when the results of a false positive are so detrimental.

    Reference for people who aren't familiar with statistics:

    Sensitivity and specificity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Appeal to popularity? What you wrote above is not a very good pro death penalty argument AT ALL. Why don't you try to refute some of the points made in my link?

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Dr.Who~ View Post
    rapeists should be tossed into a homo section of the prison and the guards should put a blind eye to homos rapeing them....they need to be taught what it's like...

    personnaly i think if you rape women....the sentence should be filthy homeless homos having their way with you for a few months for free.

    Again...you're siding with predatory rapists, and giving them what they desire. Which is what is truly filthy.

    You know who are the most common victims of prison rape? It ain't child molesters...that's a myth (concocted, I should add, by fantasists like yourself). The most common victims are simply weaker men, many of whom are more peaceable, less violent and dangerous.

    Why are you siding against them, and with their abusers?

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialEngineer View Post
    The death penalty isn't meant to be a deterrent. It's meant to eliminate the problem by preventing people from damaging society when they prove to be completely incompatible with it. Life in prison w/o parole ends a person's participation in society, and places them in a state of subhuman status and hopelessness for the rest of their lives, ensuring that they will be a perpetual drain on society while that society provides for their sustenance, all for people who are capable of contributing nothing, before or after they committed their crimes. The Death penalty removes them from society by simply ending their life.

    Which is more cruel to the criminal? Which is more beneficial to society?
    Killing people who may be innocent is more detrimental to society AND their views on the justice system, and to our entire justice system.

    None of the above that I highlighted are concerns of mine as far as whether or not to have a death penalty.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Killing people who may be innocent is more detrimental to society AND their views on the justice system, and to our entire justice system.

    None of the above that I highlighted are concerns of mine as far as whether or not to have a death penalty.
    I would say putting them in jail for life is worse.

    Imagine, knowing you didn't do the crime everyone thinks you did?

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