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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

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    We should just sub-contract our prison management to firms from Turkey. Americans need not apply.
    Special prisons for rapists where being violated is part of the everyday routine?


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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

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    Pedophiles don't get better and they have devastated a child's life not to mention devastating the entire family. Rapist have violated a womans rights in the most despicable fashion possible and scarred her for life. The impact of these crimes on children, their parents and women are so grievous that IMO the perpetrates should get the death penalty. Not only would this be justice but the incidents of rape and child molesting-rape would plummet.
    There should be a two-strike rule for pedophiles: second time is prison for life.

    As for rapists, there are too damned many grey areas in the mix. But for those that "qualify," a two-strike rule there as well. Second time prison for life.

    And. If we stopped the so-called War on Drugs, we'd have more than enough room for all of them.

    I've always thought the death penalty is too easy.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I've always thought the death penalty is too easy.
    Also child molesters do not tend to fare well among the general prison population. So, this is not about being soft-hearted, or something.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Special prisons for rapists where being violated is part of the everyday routine?
    To get around the whole ban on cruel and unusual punishment thing, I think they should run all the prisons so that which is unusual becomes the common practice and therefore legal

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But according to you in this scenario, the girl was partly to blame for her own rape...





    So I mean... would you execute those boys?

    Or maybe just a caning for them and a slap on the wrist for her because you know... it was partially her fault?

    Or is it as usual you haven't fully thought out your position at all...
    Fair point and I should have specified violent rape where a woman through no fault of her own is attacked and raped. Date rapes and he said she said scenarios are IMO in a different category. I hope this does not derail the thread though.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Child molester's fate is much worse alive in prison than dead once the other prisoners know why the molester is in jail. Much more fitting punishment than just the death penalty.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Im ok with the death penalty being an OPTION for rape whether that rape is to an adult or minor.

    But it has to be an option simply because its the death penalty, DAs would seek it when the crimes were extra brutal or when theres so much factual evidence that it would be easy to get.

    But im not sure the cases would "plummet" simply because it can be hard to prove and catch these criminal and it not be hearsay or word vs word. It would have an impact though and in many places you are allowed to use deadly force to stop a rape already which is exactly how it should be
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    We should just sub-contract our prison management to firms from Turkey. Americans need not apply.
    So you've seen Midnight Express?

    Seriously..if a person had been found guilty of child murder...paedophiles who commit the same crime again and again...street killings for no obvious reason...

    If they were awaiting the death penalty..I would give them the choice of being used as human guinea pigs for medical research..

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    The death penalty provides justification for the rationalization of murder, thus increasing murder rates.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Pedophiles don't get better and they have devastated a child's life not to mention devastating the entire family. Rapist have violated a womans rights in the most despicable fashion possible and scarred her for life. The impact of these crimes on children, their parents and women are so grievous that IMO the perpetrates should get the death penalty. Not only would this be justice but the incidents of rape and child molesting-rape would plummet.
    Of course, I oppose this for reasons I've explained numerous times on this forum. I agree child molesters need to be given long prison sentences and maybe even put away for life depending on a number of factors. But rapists of adult women should not receive similar sentences. By arguing for the death penalty for both, you're basically saying that a crime against a woman is as heinous as a crime against a child, and I simply don't believe this. The reason why rape was punished severely, historically, is that it damaged the household of the rape victim. That is now irrelevant, since women are not expected to be married as virgins and further, marriages have less monetary value to families anyway.

    All women have left is 'it makes me feel bad,' and I'm not buying that song and dance. In addition, I find it hypocritical that women expect special treatment in this respect, yet they are supposed to be equal in others. If they are equal to men in all intellectual and emotional respects, then I wish to treat them as such. I'm not interested in hearing about how they are in a sense the sort of emotionally frail creatures we thought they were back when we had primitive, bigoted, and chauvinistic views. Let them be men, I say. If they don't like it, they can always return to the old ways.

    In conclusion, rape is to me nothing more than simple assault at this point in our development. It happens to be less physically damaging than assault, in most cases, and hence it should be a relatively minor offense, unless it is exacerbated by other abusive behaviors. Not only would I not put rapists to death, but I would consider the crime equivalent to misdemeanor assault in a large percentage of cases.
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