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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    You can not remove a governments power to go genocidal if they want. But that has nothing to do with punishing those who have negative value in society through their criminal behavior.

    As the number of these people continues to rise, it become more and more important to get rid of them...
    I think that locking them away from society serves that purpose. We also have to take into consideration individuals who have been falsely accused or mistakenly identified. That is a complete miscarriage of justice and does nothing but cheapen our entire justice system.

    At least if we don't kill them, we can release them. If you kill innocents, you have their blood on your hands IMO. It's not worth it IMO, when these people can be locked away.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that locking them away from society serves that purpose.
    There are prison guards who are at risk by these people, so to me, no it does not serve the same purpose.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    There are prison guards who are at risk by these people, so to me, no it does not serve the same purpose.
    That might be true, and I hate when I hear of those instances, but they agree to take that risk when they take that job.

    I believe most of the time when prison guards die in riots and such, it is the result of uprisings in the general population and not those on death row though, so I think that is kind of irrelevant to the type of crime perpetrated. Someone in for armed robbery could be the one who kills the guard.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    But your desire is these people are in the general population, as there would be no 'death row' if there is no death sentence.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    But your desire is these people are in the general population, as there would be no 'death row' if there is no death sentence.
    Do you realize how arbitrarily the DP is applied? There already are brutal murderers in general population, and not everyone on death row should necessarily be there.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    not everyone on death row should necessarily be there.
    On this we agree, they shouldn't be there, they should be dead.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    First off, it's not called the "death deterrent" for a reason. It's a penalty, stop pretending otherwise. Secondly, the only reason the death penalty is so expensive is we allow people to file endless appeals on the taxpayer's dime. If you've been found guilty twice (once in the initial trial and once in the mandatory appeal), you shouldn't be able to file any more appeals unless you have evidence that you are factually innocent of the crime or you have evidence of some judicial misdoing during your trial. Appealing the death penalty just because you don't want to die is not a valid appeal. Do that, carry out the sentence in no more than 2 years and the death penalty is positively cheap.
    Oh, even better! Let's make it statistically likely that more innocent people end up executed. Thanks for solving that silly "cost" problem, Cephus.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you realize how arbitrarily the DP is applied? There already are brutal murderers in general population, and not everyone on death row should necessarily be there.
    Yes, better not be a black person when the question of death penalty comes up.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Oh, even better! Let's make it statistically likely that more innocent people end up executed. Thanks for solving that silly "cost" problem, Cephus.
    If you can't prove your innocence in two trials, what are the odds more tax payer funded defenders are going to change things?
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Pedophiles don't get better and they have devastated a child's life not to mention devastating the entire family. Rapist have violated a womans rights in the most despicable fashion possible and scarred her for life. The impact of these crimes on children, their parents and women are so grievous that IMO the perpetrates should get the death penalty. Not only would this be justice but the incidents of rape and child molesting-rape would plummet.
    I really dont think rapist should get the death penalty. Especially in a society where women have been known to make false reports to try and ruin a mans reputation. Who knows how many men are behind bars who have been convicted of false rape charges.
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