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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    No overall. I don't support the death sentence regardless of the crime.

    Though I would understand it if there would be a law saying that if you are an acquaintance of the victim ,you are allowed to be in a room with the respective individual for the amount of time that he robbed you of the presence of your loved one. And during that time, everything goes. So for instance, if you are the father of a child that has been molested, how long did it take? 5min? Ok. for 5min, you can be in a room with the respective garbage of a human being and where the rule of law is suspended and so are all consequences. So you could take an iron bat for instance and smash the guys head in until there is nothing left and you can clearly see his larynges. And you, the father, won't suffer any consequences under the law.
    Then again, you could just do nothing and let him serve his time in prison and act like a decent human being and not stoop down to his level. Or you can. I'm just saying, you should have the option and it would be less barbaric than the death sentence. Why? Because I don't think the government has the right to sentence its own people to death. Its an abuse of power.

    But as an individual... well, you're not the state. You're just an individual.
    So that would be great.
    Do you think that would promote your healing as an individual though?

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Do you think that would promote your healing as an individual though?
    If oyu mean, would that promote healing of "a individual".
    I don't know and it doesn't matter. I'm just saying that it should be an option for whomever wants to take advantage of it. I'm not promoting either one.

    As I said: "Then again, you could just do nothing and let him serve his time in prison and act like a decent human being and not stoop down to his level. "

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    As I have said (and you apparently have been unable to read and comprehend) all humans are human. That's the fundamental and that's why we all share intrinsic worth along with common natural rights and liberties. Do please try to keep up.
    When someone leaves America to go to another country and fight Americans they lose their citizenship. Same thing when you commit a horrific crime like rape or act on your pedophilia desires, you forfeit your humanity and become an animal.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    In conclusion, rape is to me nothing more than simple assault at this point in our development. It happens to be less physically damaging than assault, in most cases, and hence it should be a relatively minor offense, unless it is exacerbated by other abusive behaviors.
    I suggest you submit yourself (or perhaps your wife, daughter or sister) to getting punched in the face and kicked in the kidneys... then submit to multiple rapes. Please come back and post which assault was more damaging. We yearn to be enlightened by you.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    If oyu mean, would that promote healing of "a individual".
    I don't know and it doesn't matter. I'm just saying that it should be an option for whomever wants to take advantage of it. I'm not promoting either one.

    As I said: "Then again, you could just do nothing and let him serve his time in prison and act like a decent human being and not stoop down to his level. "
    I just wonder if allowing such a thing could possibly do more harm than good, in a psychological sense.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Graffias View Post
    Of course, I oppose this for reasons I've explained numerous times on this forum. I agree child molesters need to be given long prison sentences and maybe even put away for life depending on a number of factors. But rapists of adult women should not receive similar sentences. By arguing for the death penalty for both, you're basically saying that a crime against a woman is as heinous as a crime against a child, and I simply don't believe this. The reason why rape was punished severely, historically, is that it damaged the household of the rape victim. That is now irrelevant, since women are not expected to be married as virgins and further, marriages have less monetary value to families anyway.

    All women have left is 'it makes me feel bad,' and I'm not buying that song and dance. In addition, I find it hypocritical that women expect special treatment in this respect, yet they are supposed to be equal in others. If they are equal to men in all intellectual and emotional respects, then I wish to treat them as such. I'm not interested in hearing about how they are in a sense the sort of emotionally frail creatures we thought they were back when we had primitive, bigoted, and chauvinistic views. Let them be men, I say. If they don't like it, they can always return to the old ways.

    In conclusion, rape is to me nothing more than simple assault at this point in our development. It happens to be less physically damaging than assault, in most cases, and hence it should be a relatively minor offense, unless it is exacerbated by other abusive behaviors. Not only would I not put rapists to death, but I would consider the crime equivalent to misdemeanor assault in a large percentage of cases.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Not that I don't think they might deserve death, but I just think that the state should NEVER be allowed to kill it's citizens.
    As long as the judicial system is honest and transparent, who cares? Would it make you feel better if they let people have a lottery for who pulls the trigger? That way between a jury and the executioner it's all citizens.
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    As long as the judicial system is honest and transparent, who cares? Would it make you feel better if they let people have a lottery for who pulls the trigger? That way between a jury and the executioner it's all citizens.
    I care. I don't want the government to have the power to kill ANY of it's citizens.

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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    When someone leaves America to go to another country and fight Americans they lose their citizenship. Same thing when you commit a horrific crime like rape or act on your pedophilia desires, you forfeit your humanity and become an animal.
    animals are not like those monsters ,sawyer

    these perverts are less valuable than any creature
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    Re: Death penalty for rapist and pedophiles?

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I care. I don't want the government to have the power to kill ANY of it's citizens.
    You can not remove a governments power to go genocidal if they want. But that has nothing to do with punishing those who have negative value in society through their criminal behavior.

    As the number of these people continues to rise, it become more and more important to get rid of them...
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