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  • Only physical acts of hatred. All else falls under free speech.

    3 15.79%
  • Only directed and purposeful discrimination against a group. Adverse impact is allowed

    11 57.89%
  • Unintentional adverse impact is not okay.

    1 5.26%
  • Any vocal or active support for policy that would be beneficial to a "dominant" group.

    2 10.53%
  • Not checking yo privilege!

    1 5.26%
  • Anything goes.

    1 5.26%
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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Age or national origins, Maggie. Don't forget that is why banks have to give 30 year loans to 80 year olds
    That's not a bad business decision. Once the 80-year old dies, the house either goes to an inheritor who has to assume the loan or the bank gets the house. Why do you think they're pushing reverse mortgages so hard these days?
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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Pretty straight forward. I hear people call X racist/sexist/[insert term here]ist all the time and I want to know how you define it in your mind. What defines someone as being discriminatory a particular group? Discuss.
    It's only racist if it's white -----> black, hispanic, etc etc.

    Sadly, this is the state of the PC landscape.

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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It doesn't matter if it's racist, speech is still protected no matter who it bothers.
    Unfortunately, some people have more freedom to speak than others and not have to make public apologies or risk their jobs.

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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    That's not a bad business decision. Once the 80-year old dies, the house either goes to an inheritor who has to assume the loan or the bank gets the house. Why do you think they're pushing reverse mortgages so hard these days?
    Well they sort of stopped that heavy promotion once the boom went bust. I haven't paid attention to the details, but I understand that the government is starting to take a hard, skeptical look at those even though they once encouraged them too. Apparently a lot of the folks are complaining they didn't understand what they were getting into--basically all those folks who took lump sum payments, spent it, and then want more money or kids who find out they are not getting mom's house after all and are saying mom was tricked would be my gut instinct as to who the complainers are.

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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    Unfortunately, some people have more freedom to speak than others and not have to make public apologies or risk their jobs.
    Yeah, usually minorities. That needs to change. Equality means equality for all, not just for the politically correct.
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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Well they sort of stopped that heavy promotion once the boom went bust. I haven't paid attention to the details, but I understand that the government is starting to take a hard, skeptical look at those even though they once encouraged them too. Apparently a lot of the folks are complaining they didn't understand what they were getting into--basically all those folks who took lump sum payments, spent it, and then want more money or kids who find out they are not getting mom's house after all and are saying mom was tricked would be my gut instinct as to who the complainers are.
    Sorry, I'm just not sympathetic to that. Unless you've been declared legally incompetent and cannot enter into legal contracts, you are responsible for your own actions. If you didn't understand it, you shouldn't have signed the agreement. The only recourse ought to be to prove that the person wasn't legally in their right mind at the time they signed the contract, at which point, the contract is broken and the money is owed back to the lender.
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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Sorry, I'm just not sympathetic to that. Unless you've been declared legally incompetent and cannot enter into legal contracts, you are responsible for your own actions. If you didn't understand it, you shouldn't have signed the agreement. The only recourse ought to be to prove that the person wasn't legally in their right mind at the time they signed the contract, at which point, the contract is broken and the money is owed back to the lender.
    Didn't say I was sympathetic to it. Just pointing out that those are under scrutiny.

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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Didn't say I was sympathetic to it. Just pointing out that those are under scrutiny.
    And the liberals will probably let people screw the system through claims of ignorance, that's just the kind of people liberals are.
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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I would suggest you give more thought to your poll options before you post. This poll is useless, in my opinion.

    Discrimination in legal terms involves unequal (lesser) commercial treatment of a group of people based upon their gender, marital status, sexual orientation, race, color or religion. (I think that catches all of them.)

    In every day terms, it would involve pretty much the same categories of people and cover one's general attitudes -- which may be better described as bigotry or prejudice.
    yes the poll is worded horribly but i agree with you mags
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    Re: What do you define as discrimination

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I would suggest you give more thought to your poll options before you post. This poll is useless, in my opinion.

    Discrimination in legal terms involves unequal (lesser) commercial treatment of a group of people based upon their gender, marital status, sexual orientation, race, color or religion. (I think that catches all of them.)

    In every day terms, it would involve pretty much the same categories of people and cover one's general attitudes -- which may be better described as bigotry or prejudice.
    While you limited yourself to the legal definition, I'd expand that to say a lesser treatment of a given group of people over the others or a greater treatment of a group one is included in over others. It's discrimination if one treats blacks differently, even if they are not treating hispanics or asians or any other minority differently. Most people only see discrimination as treating all minorities differently as a single group, or at least all others than one's own group differently. It doesn't have to be the catgories you have listed above. Nerd/geek discrimination was quite a real event in my experience, even if no one ever talked about it.

    I will say that this poll and most likely even the premise of the thread, isn't well thought out. I am left wondering if there is a particular mind set that the poster was going for. Discrimination is not automatically right or wrong. Context plays a large part in that, and in addition the rightness or wrongness of it does not automaticaly dictact whether or not the discrimination should be legal or illegal.

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