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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Party View Post
    I have always had the political belief that the people own the Government, not that the Government owns the people.

    I have always had the political belief that the people own and run a business. The business doesn't own the people.

    A Libertarian-Right told me tonight; "America has the highest rate of black hair brown eye people in the world. What if they decided to place their laws upon us?" (He immediately backtracked and said it wasn't racist, but confirmed it was a good point)

    So the question is (for anyone who actually read this far down in a thread);

    What group matters the most to you in the USA?;
    A) The People
    B)The Government
    C)The Corporations
    Corporations own the government. Corporations are people. Ergo, the people own the government.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Corporations own the government. Corporations are people. Ergo, the people own the government.
    Corporations and Government are in bed together...they are basically the same now.

    Corporations are not people...they are businesses. People run them, but corporations alone are not people.

    Elitists own the government. Average people do not have a say one way or another.
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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    I find this phenomenon amusing.

    Traditionally, our govt is supposed to be the "referee", the playground monitor.

    Now, the very entities that CHOOSE who we get to vote for have managed to convince the people that the govt THEY SELECTED is our enemy.

    Which is EXACTLY what I would do if I didn't like being "refereed" and had the money to bring it about.

    If money doesn't like the way the govt behaves, why don't they pick better people for us to vote for?

    Because they want us mad at the govt, not them.
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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anti-Party View Post
    I have always had the political belief that the people own the Government, not that the Government owns the people.

    I have always had the political belief that the people own and run a business. The business doesn't own the people.

    A Libertarian-Right told me tonight; "America has the highest rate of black hair brown eye people in the world. What if they decided to place their laws upon us?" (He immediately backtracked and said it wasn't racist, but confirmed it was a good point)

    So the question is (for anyone who actually read this far down in a thread);

    What group matters the most to you in the USA?;
    A) The People
    B)The Government
    C)The Corporations
    Corporations are people, that's settled law. Often wealthy people from places like China and Saudi Arabia who have a constitutional right to exert more influence over American elections than less wealthy US citizens.
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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    That's the fault of dumb Americans who refuse to inform themselves though.

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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    I find this phenomenon amusing.

    Traditionally, our govt is supposed to be the "referee", the playground monitor.

    Now, the very entities that CHOOSE who we get to vote for have managed to convince the people that the govt THEY SELECTED is our enemy.

    Which is EXACTLY what I would do if I didn't like being "refereed" and had the money to bring it about.

    If money doesn't like the way the govt behaves, why don't they pick better people for us to vote for?

    Because they want us mad at the govt, not them.
    Could you imagine the change that would be possible if the TP and OWS realized they were both angry about the same thing?


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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Could you imagine the change that would be possible if the TP and OWS realized they were both angry about the same thing?
    For a minute there, I thought that was going to happen.

    Then the media commenced to bashing OWS.

    Fancy that!

    The corporate owned media, misrepresenting the anti-corporate movement.

    No conflict of interest there! Nosiree!
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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    For a minute there, I thought that was going to happen.

    Then the media commenced to bashing OWS.

    Fancy that!

    The corporate owned media, misrepresenting the anti-corporate movement.

    No conflict of interest there! Nosiree!
    But Obama controls them both! Now my head is spinning....


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    For a minute there, I thought that was going to happen.

    Then the media commenced to bashing OWS.

    Fancy that!

    The corporate owned media, misrepresenting the anti-corporate movement.

    No conflict of interest there! Nosiree!
    Not really. FoxNews bashed, MSNBC praised. Exact opposite with the Tea Party

    It's partisan bull****, and there is a reason they like to keep the uninformed focused on these petty left/right issues.

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    Re: Who Matters In The USA? The People, or the Government, or the Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Quik View Post
    Not really. FoxNews bashed, MSNBC praised. Exact opposite with the Tea Party

    It's partisan bull****, and there is a reason they like to keep the uninformed focused on these petty left/right issues.
    Of course it is.

    Really, when you look at it, the TP is concerned about the power of government. OWS is concerned about the power of corporations. But it's the corporations that put the money in play that creates government! Government isn't going to save us from corporations because they know where their bread is buttered. Corporations aren't going to save us from their creation.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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