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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    The us is on a self destructive path right now. I think the US will fall with in the next 100 years. 2 of the signs are viable to me at this moment. They are embracing non traditional marriage, and a government voted for by the people that does not care about the people. They're other signs but I don't know them. One sign that we don't have is a near by country with power grater than ours that just doesn't like us.

    Keep in mind these are symptoms not cases. Does anyone else know of any I forgot?
    It has already fallen. It fell under FDR and Kennedy, we are no longer a Constitutional Republic but have fallen into a Social Democracy which is fastly falling towards outright socialism and authoritarianism.

    Why are you looking for a external country with the power to overcome us? Historically, Democracies and Republics fall from within, not from external forces.
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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    You could say that about many aspects of the Roman society. I doubt that gay marriage was a significant factor in the fall of the Roman Empire, and I doubt that it will be a significant factor in the downfall of the United States.
    Homosexuals did not marry it was all under the table

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    It has already fallen. It fell under FDR and Kennedy, we are no longer a Constitutional Republic but have fallen into a Social Democracy which is fastly falling towards outright socialism and authoritarianism.

    Why are you looking for a external country with the power to overcome us? Historically, Democracies and Republics fall from within, not from external forces.
    FDR I could understand but what'd Kennedy do?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    We are going to fall because we are giving gay's equal rights?
    Perhaps you should spend some time learning to read correctly. He said it is a sign indicating possible failure, not a cause of the failure.

    Moral decay can be found shortly before the fall of societies. In Democracies, it is more evident as it clearly indicates a trend towards selfishness and self indulgence which will also be reflected in voting.
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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Perhaps you should spend some time learning to read correctly. He said it is a sign indicating possible failure, not a cause of the failure.

    Moral decay can be found shortly before the fall of societies. In Democracies, it is more evident as it clearly indicates a trend towards selfishness and self indulgence which will also be reflected in voting.
    Non-sequitur, homosexuality cannot be in any moral way considered decay.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post

    Just look the the roman empire. When they were starting to fall but did not know yet they had gay marriage.
    They also ate grapes. Perhaps it's eating grapes which will lead to our demise?

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Perhaps you should spend some time learning to read correctly. He said it is a sign indicating possible failure, not a cause of the failure.

    Moral decay can be found shortly before the fall of societies. In Democracies, it is more evident as it clearly indicates a trend towards selfishness and self indulgence which will also be reflected in voting.
    Ok...... Gays being allowed to marry is a sign were gonna fail as a country? I remember some said if blacks were treated as equal it was the same sign..


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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    FDR I could understand but what'd Kennedy do?
    Created welfare. Used Federalized troops to enforce National policy inside the US. Helped create many of the laws leading to greater socialism in the country. Attempted to fight Racism by using racist law. While I can agree with some of what he was trying to accomplish, using improper methods to do so only sets precedent for those same methodologies to be used again.
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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Ok...... Gays being allowed to marry is a sign were gonna fail as a country? I remember some said if blacks were treated as equal it was the same sign..
    No, it is a sign of moral decay, moral decay is a sign that the country is failing. Socialism, failure of traditional marriage, acceptance of greater and greater immoral behavior in society, suppression of individuals rights, etc are all indications that America today is in deep trouble.

    Homosexuality as a sexual preference, not individual acts, is an aberration of normal human sexual behavior, the acceptance of aberrant sexual behavior is immoral.
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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    The United States won't fall. Few if any other country is as firmly established in the international order. (Or disorder, if you prefer. ) So we saw Great Britain move from position as dominant power to...well, no longer dominant, but still there, still influential, and still ensconced in the international order.

    Potentially the US could find itself playing second, third or fourth fiddle, definitely. In fact, I assume that will be the case, though I don't think it'll be anytime soon.

    Of course we can't see the future, so a long, long way off, the US (and any other country) could fall into some sort of outright decay, sure.

    But in a hundred years? Barring some global catastrophe, in which nations everywhere are "falling," no, I seriously doubt it.

    (BTW: same sex mariage as a "sign"? Really? ..... And a proud member of a capitalist nation denouncing...selfishness? Really?)

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