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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    The us is on a self destructive path right now. I think the US will fall with in the next 100 years. 2 of the signs are viable to me at this moment. They are embracing non traditional marriage,


    Not rising debt, not sending jobs overseas, not increased size of government, not a failing educational system, not inflation, not depression, not the ever increasing gap between the haves and the have-nots....not civil war....

    your first, of only two signs is: "non traditional marriage".....



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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Just look the the roman empire. When they were starting to fall but did not know yet they had gay marriage.
    That was one slow, magnificent fall...Even you begin counting from the first verified gay marriage of an emperor (Nero), the best days of the Empire were still ahead.

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    I don't believe gay marriage had anything to do with it.

    1. Political corruption
    2. Divided Empire
    3. Decline of military might
    - Refusal by the people to enlist
    - No one to replace veterans.
    - Disloyalty to Rome in the military ranks.
    - Barbarian influence
    4. Economic problems
    - empire became poor and thus so did Rome
    - debased currency
    - High Taxes
    - Disease

    5. Empire is laid to rest finally by barbaric warlords.
    Don't forget Christianity becoming the state religion. Suddenly, the pluralistic, tolerant empire of many faiths becomes a place of persecution for everyone but the followers of a strange Semitic cult. Must have been one hell of a "divider".

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    How do you explain China. They have existed for 5000 years and they have had plural marraige for eons. Even though it is not legal today, many men there have more than one family.
    How many different dynasty did china have? Everyone was vary different to the last. I think it is safe to say each was a new country, also the Capitol keep moving.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Not rising debt, not sending jobs overseas, not increased size of government, not a failing educational system, not inflation, not depression, not the ever increasing gap between the haves and the have-nots....not civil war....

    your first, of only two signs is: "non traditional marriage".....



    what a joke
    Maybe I was wrong to thing non traditional marriage was a sign of a failing country. But it does pop up when a people is no longer censored about their own survival, for us their is no threat for us to weary about. We out number and out gun every other country at least 10 fold.

    Rising debt, inflation, depression, the us have survived two of them just fine, and Germany had hipper inflation then conquer half of Europe. The other, sending jobs overseas, increased size of government, a failing educational system, the ever increasing gap between the haves and the have-nots, are sign we are suffering from right now and is some-thing I should have listed in the beginning.
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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Fall as in financial failure? Yes.
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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    I think so for one reason.

    We are hemorrhaging money that we don't have. Other countries have already begun to see this, and are trying to trade outside the dollar. The only thing keeping our economy afloat is that the dollar maintains the "World Reserve" status. As more and more countries attempt to get off the dollar...that will change. Reality is that we can't attack every country who attempts it, but "damn it we'll try" seems to be the notion.

    We have to make tough choices and cut back tremendously or we will fall. Our currency will collapse, and the rest will be like dominoes.

    The Soviet Union fell the same way. They overspent and imploded. We are on that path.
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    Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    How many different dynasty did china have? Everyone was vary different to the last. I think it is safe to say each was a new country, also the Capitol keep moving.



    Maybe I was wrong to thing non traditional marriage was a sign of a failing country. But it does pop up when a people is no longer censored about their own survival, for us their is no threat for us to weary about. We out number and out gun every other country at least 10 fold.

    Rising debt, inflation, depression, the us have survived two of them just fine, and Germany had hipper inflation then conquer half of Europe. The other, sending jobs overseas, increased size of government, a failing educational system, the ever increasing gap between the haves and the have-nots, are sign we are suffering from right now and is some-thing I should have listed in the beginning.
    Harvard sociologist Carle Zimmerman studied family structure and civilizations back in '47. I haven't read a lot of his work but he seems to have found some common characteristics present near the end of civilizations.

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Maybe I was wrong to thing non traditional marriage was a sign of a failing country.
    Maybe? It's kinda like thinking un-kept facial hair might be the cause of declining health on a patient with stage 4 pancreatic cancer.

    I do wonder, how much of your doom-and-gloom scenario is directly tied to the current president, and how dramatically might your outlook change should a non-democrat get elected president in 2016?

    Will the mere election of a non-democratic president automatically mean (for you) that America has been "saved" from self-destruction?

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    The us is on a self destructive path right now. I think the US will fall with in the next 100 years. 2 of the signs are viable to me at this moment. They are embracing non traditional marriage, and a government voted for by the people that does not care about the people. They're other signs but I don't know them. One sign that we don't have is a near by country with power grater than ours that just doesn't like us.

    Keep in mind these are symptoms not cases. Does anyone else know of any I forgot?
    No, we're still the regional hegemon and no other country in the world rivals our power - no, not even China. We're good to go for a while. However, if we stay good for even longer, we really need to improve our education system.

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    Re: Do you think the USA will soon fall?

    I thought this thread was going to be about economic trends, not QQing about gay rights.
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