View Poll Results: If you had to legalize or accept one of the following which one would it be?

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  • Criminalize/Ban Abortion (exception stated)

    15 55.56%
  • Universally Recognize Traditional Marriage as Law

    7 25.93%
  • Allow for Theocratic/Religious Laws

    0 0%
  • Allow for Anti-Sodomy Laws

    5 18.52%
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    Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    I decided to create a poll to try and see what people could live in regards to more socially conservative stances on social issues. Pick one issue that you would or could live with seeing happen. Picking "none" is not an option. If you support multiple ones, please pick the one most important to you.

    Option 1: Make abortion illegal and criminalize abortion with the only exception being to save the life of the mother.

    Option 2: Universally accept traditional marriage as law and likewise outlawing polygamy and SSM.

    Option 3: Allow laws to be based on religious beliefs/allow for theocratic laws.

    Option 4: Allow for anti-sodomy laws that could ban sex practices including anal sex, oral sex, and other non coital sex practices.

    Assume that all laws would be equally enforced with violators caught and punished. The purpose is to gauge which social issues people could live with or tolerate being law among those listed from an ideological standpoint.
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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Bleh. Where's my "rutabaga" option? They're all detestable concepts to me.

    I'm leaning towards options 2 and 4. The reason being is that they are the easiest to circumvent.

    If one were to take away the power of a marriage license by providing other means of the acquiring the same rights without too much difficult, it's a bigotry people could live with.

    And #4 just really isn't enforceable.

    I guess I'll have to go with #4, on the basis that it's virtually impossible to enforce. But I'm holding my nose all the way to the "vote" button.

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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Bleh. Where's my "rutabaga" option? They're all detestable concepts to me.

    I'm leaning towards options 2 and 4. The reason being is that they are the easiest to circumvent.

    If one were to take away the power of a marriage license by providing other means of the acquiring the same rights without too much difficult, it's a bigotry people could live with.

    And #4 just really isn't enforceable.

    I guess I'll have to go with #4, on the basis that it's virtually impossible to enforce. But I'm holding my nose all the way to the "vote" button.
    I should probably clarify that this would be a "perfect world" scenario where these laws would be enforced to the letter. My main purpose would be which social issue at the core of people's beliefs they could support living with listed in the poll.
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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Re Option 1, I'd add "and in cases of catastrophic/fatal damage to the fetus."

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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I should probably clarify that this would be a "perfect world" scenario where these laws would be enforced to the letter. My main purpose would be which social issue at the core of people's beliefs they could support living with listed in the poll.
    Oh, damn. Then I have to redact my vote.

    In that case, I would go with #2, on the basis that other laws could strip it of its power.

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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I should probably clarify that this would be a "perfect world" scenario where these laws would be enforced to the letter. My main purpose would be which social issue at the core of people's beliefs they could support living with listed in the poll.
    It would take a lot of hard drinking to call any of that hot mess a 'perfect world'.

    I am of an age so I can remember when some of that crap was the law, too damn old to do the required amount of drinking to even consider going back to any of it and hope I don't live long enough to see any return to this 'perfect world'.

    Other than that its 'perfect'...

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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Oh, damn. Then I have to redact my vote.

    In that case, I would go with #2, on the basis that other laws could strip it of its power.
    Option 2 states that it would be universal. It wouldn't be circumvented. Mainly the poll is to gauge someone's core beliefs and which social issues they support the most or could live with changing to any option listed.
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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Definitely ban abortion since it's the only one where an innocent life is being ended.


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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    It would take a lot of hard drinking to call any of that hot mess a 'perfect world'.

    I am of an age so I can remember when some of that crap was the law, too damn old to do the required amount of drinking to even consider going back to any of it and hope I don't live long enough to see any return to this 'perfect world'.

    Other than that its 'perfect'...
    I mean "perfect" as in everything would be enforced without being circumvented. Hypothetically, if any of these were the absolute law of the land and enforceable without the laws being able to be worked around or committed in secret.
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    Re: Abortion, Universal Traditional Marriage, Religion Based Laws, Sodomy Laws

    All horrible options but if I HAD to choose I would go with the traditional marriage one. My reason is the other option would be a giant step backwards for us but traditional marriage is the law in most places of the country already anyway, so it wouldn't be as big of a step backwards, since we are already backward in that area.

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