View Poll Results: If you had to support or accept just one in changing existing law, which would it be?

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  • Universally legalizing same sex marriage.

    31 59.62%
  • Universally legalizing polygamy.

    3 5.77%
  • Universally legalizing recreational drug use.

    8 15.38%
  • Universally legalizing prostitution.

    10 19.23%
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Thread: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    In the order I would legalize:
    1. Prostitution – It is the woman’s body and she ought to be able to do with it as she pleases, which includes making money from it. Sex is great.
    *There are male prostitutes.

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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    My value system is derived from the Bible. Of the 4 options, the Bible seems most accepting of polygamy and is only prohibited for Christian ministers and indirectly when the "laws of the land" outlaw it. Polygamy.

    Trivia: what world leader of a G-20 nation has 3 wives?

    President Jacob Zuma of South Africa. Not a whole lot of difference between that and Gov. Mark Stanford and Sen. John Edwards except everything is out in the open, it's legal and all parties seem to either agree or accept the situation. I have a buddy from South Africa who is from a polygamous family. All the wives have their own homes and rarely see each other. Papa is a rolling stone; wherever he lays his hat is his home but spends the most time with the one he likes the most. Some he hasn't seen in months and one not in years but they all get provided for.
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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Not quite: our actions should be limited as not infringe upon other people's freedom.

    (Naturally, freedom itself is limited for children and mentally disabled people, but I am assuming we are talking about competent adults, considering the topic).
    my freedom shouldnt limit your freedom

    true ?
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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    *There are male prostitutes.
    I have no problem with them either. Hey, everyone has to make a living somehow.
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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    my freedom shouldnt limit your freedom

    true ?
    Of course. Freedom is not something you can have without giving it to others.

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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    my freedom shouldnt limit your freedom

    true ?
    Don't you think a legitimate argument can be made where unrestricted drug use for example can indirectly impact the economy and more directly the cost of healthcare that is then passed on to all of us? Joe drug user starts using heroine. Because of this eventually loses his ability to function at work and loses his job. His wife and kids have to get on food stamps creating a tax liability for others. He robs a convenience store to finance his next drug purchase triggering costs to the owner of the store. People living in the vicinity see an increase in their homeowner and auto insurance rates due to crime statistics for that area. One day he overdoses and has to be rushed to the ER by ambulance to save his life. Fortunately he survived and was sent to rehab. No insurance because he lost his job. Thankifully we all work and the costs are passed on to us instead. Or maybe his insurance was still active for a while so his former co-workers simply get to pay higher premiums. Anybody with a complaint get labeled as a hate-filled jerk.
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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    My value system is derived from the Bible. Of the 4 options, the Bible seems most accepting of polygamy.
    Just out of curiosity: Where does the Bible object to (moderate) use of intoxicants? To the best of my recollection, none are mentioned except for alcohol, and Jesus had turned water into wine, not the other way around...And it's not like narcotics were unknown in those days (Marcus Aurelius was addicted to opium, for example - without any damage to his prestige, apparently)
    Last edited by Cyrylek; 04-28-13 at 11:07 PM.

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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    marriage equality would top my list. that's an equal protection issue.

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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cyrylek View Post
    Just out of curiosity: Where does the Bible object to (moderate) use of intoxicants? To the best of my recollection, none are mentioned except for alcohol, and Jesus had turned water into wine, not the other way around...And it's not like narcotics were unknown in those days ()
    Revelation 9:21 and 18:23. The word "sorcery (ies) in the original manuscripts could be translated "drug abuse" from my understanding. You're right IMHO about moderate alcohol use. Jesus first public miracle was turning water into wine and Paul told a young minister apprentice to drink wine to help with a health problem.
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    Re: Same sex marriage, polygamy, legalized drugs, legalized prostitution?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    Don't you think a legitimate argument can be made where unrestricted drug use for example can indirectly impact the economy and more directly the cost of healthcare that is then passed on to all of us? Joe drug user starts using heroine. Because of this eventually loses his ability to function at work and loses his job. His wife and kids have to get on food stamps creating a tax liability for others. He robs a convenience store to finance his next drug purchase triggering costs to the owner of the store. People living in the vicinity see an increase in their homeowner and auto insurance rates due to crime statistics for that area. One day he overdoses and has to be rushed to the ER by ambulance to save his life. Fortunately he survived and was sent to rehab. No insurance because he lost his job. Thankifully we all work and the costs are passed on to us instead. Or maybe his insurance was still active for a while so his former co-workers simply get to pay higher premiums. Anybody with a complaint get labeled as a hate-filled jerk.
    The same argument can be made about alcohol. Or fatty, sugary food, for that matter. But unless we want the whole country to turn into one big Bloomberg Kindergarten, we should concentrate on the present massive disasters brought on by the prohibition (violent crime, ruined neighborhoods, imprisonment for victimless crimes and subsequent social alienation, overdosing and poisoning by street drugs, etc ) rather than on potential rare cases of egregious abuse.

    And legalization doesn't mean "lack of control" - quite the opposite: it makes actual regulation possible. Hard drugs like heroin are not going to be sold to everyone over 21 at the gas station. The addicts and "experimenting" types will have, for example, safe, monitored "opium-den-like" places at their service. If it worked in Victorian England, why can't it work now and here?

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