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    Re: Executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    If Congress feels that the President is overreaching his powers the House can always vote to impeach him so that he can be tried in the Senate.
    Good because it may come to that. It should have already.
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    Re: Executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Because Congress can pass unconstitutional legislation and the President can issue executive orders to counter it. The President can also issue executive orders to ensure that the Constitution is carried out.
    No, if Congress passes Unconstitutional legislation, the Supreme Court knocks it out. That is outside the jurisdiction of the President.
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    Re: Executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    No, if Congress passes Unconstitutional legislation, the Supreme Court knocks it out. That is outside the jurisdiction of the President.
    He may also issue executive orders prohibiting executive agencies from following those laws. That's the President's check against Congress.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    He may also issue executive orders prohibiting executive agencies from following those laws. That's the President's check against Congress.
    No, the President's check is to veto laws that Congress attempts to pass that he feels are not Constitutional. He does not have the right to retroactively strike down laws that were passed before he became President. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
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    Re: Executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    No, the President's check is to veto laws that Congress attempts to pass that he feels are not Constitutional. He does not have the right to retroactively strike down laws that were passed before he became President. That is the job of the Supreme Court.
    He's not striking them down. He's just choosing to not enforce them. Big difference.
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    Re: Executive orders

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    I didn't dodge anything but I'm not going to chase your ghosts, either. I suggest you dial 555-2368.
    My apologies for the misunderstanding. Nobody mentioned anything about ghosts. How did you get my phone number? Anyways, I called it and got a busy signal.

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    Re: Executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    After the circus of the Repub primaries/caucuses where they made up and broke rules as they went to serve Romney, I was shocked that the federal government didn't step in and disqualify Romney or put the GOP back in its place. That they didn't, was a major blow to the integrity of our voting process. Repub officials maintained that they are a private "club" and that they can follow, ignore, or change the rules as they see fit. This is not true at all, however, because the federal government provides them with funding with which to run these caucuses.

    Kind of funny when you consider that in one caucus where there were mostly Paul supporters, the outnumbered Romney constituents who ran the caucus, quickly appointed delegates for Romney and then closed the meeting amid shouts of objection, demands for points of order, and a vote count, then told all the Paul supporters that if they wanted to continue the caucus they needed to pay the rent and insurance for the building. They never had to answer for this behavior and I just think that's crazy. IT'S A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. How did they get away with this?
    Again, I ask, why did the Republican party not suffer consequences outside of losing the election? Doesn't anybody, after having seen the display of what dirty cheaters they are, look differently upon the party? Or is it because they did it to Ron Paul and nobody likes Ron Paul so that makes it okay?
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    Re: Executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by sKiTzo View Post
    Again, I ask, why did the Republican party not suffer consequences outside of losing the election? Doesn't anybody, after having seen the display of what dirty cheaters they are, look differently upon the party? Or is it because they did it to Ron Paul and nobody likes Ron Paul so that makes it okay?
    I'll answer that. Yes, I think it has affected the party deep down at the core. On the surface, it appears to be business as usual and they'll be back in 4 years BUT they won't ever be the same because whether you liked Ron Paul or not, in the back of your mind you know what lowdown scandalous cheating piles of **** the REpubs have shown themselves to be.

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