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    Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official agenda?

    To me it's funny the party that coined the phrase 'Big Tent' also coined the term 'RINO.' I personally think 'DINO' has a nice ring to it too, especially considering I grew up on Flintsrones reruns.

    Seriously, each party has their own platform and core values. I interestingly find myself at odds with my party on some issues but especially at odds with its current culture. At the same time I'm sure as much as all parties would love for its followers to be in lock-step agreement with all of their positions and culture, everyone does have their own brain and is free to hold any position they want. Then what happens? Which party do you think is more accepting of its followers not towing their party's line? What happens when a republican supports an end to the oil oligopoly? What happens when a democrat supports a traditional definition of marriage? Can a Green Party member be pro-business? Can a Libertarian support government funded higher education? Is it better for more independent minded Americans to just have no party affiliation?

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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    What happens when a republican supports an end to the oil oligopoly?
    At best, they cannot rise any higher than representative for a district in a small (non-oil producing) state

    What happens when a democrat supports a traditional definition of marriage?
    They will get no further than being elected President.
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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    To me it's funny the party that coined the phrase 'Big Tent' also coined the term 'RINO.' I personally think 'DINO' has a nice ring to it too, especially considering I grew up on Flintsrones reruns.

    Seriously, each party has their own platform and core values. I interestingly find myself at odds with my party on some issues but especially at odds with its current culture. At the same time I'm sure as much as all parties would love for its followers to be in lock-step agreement with all of their positions and culture, everyone does have their own brain and is free to hold any position they want. Then what happens? Which party do you think is more accepting of its followers not towing their party's line? What happens when a republican supports an end to the oil oligopoly? What happens when a democrat supports a traditional definition of marriage? Can a Green Party member be pro-business? Can a Libertarian support government funded higher education? Is it better for more independent minded Americans to just have no party affiliation?

    Sorry, iPad must have sensed the heat from my finger and thought I pressed save. No poll and cannot edit it in after the op is posted.
    Neither of the two major parties are particularly tolerant of dissenting positions, and congressmen rating as moderates have been sharply dropping in recent years. That said, there is a fair amount of dissent on some issues. There is a good number of pro-life or pro-gun rights Democrats and a fair number of pro-choice or pro Same sex marriage Republicans among other issues. I do think the
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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    To me it's funny the party that coined the phrase 'Big Tent' also coined the term 'RINO.' I personally think 'DINO' has a nice ring to it too, especially considering I grew up on Flintsrones reruns.

    Seriously, each party has their own platform and core values. I interestingly find myself at odds with my party on some issues but especially at odds with its current culture. At the same time I'm sure as much as all parties would love for its followers to be in lock-step agreement with all of their positions and culture, everyone does have their own brain and is free to hold any position they want. Then what happens? Which party do you think is more accepting of its followers not towing their party's line? What happens when a republican supports an end to the oil oligopoly? What happens when a democrat supports a traditional definition of marriage? Can a Green Party member be pro-business? Can a Libertarian support government funded higher education? Is it better for more independent minded Americans to just have no party affiliation?

    Sorry, iPad must have sensed the heat from my finger and thought I pressed save. No poll and cannot edit it in after the op is posted.
    You can still post a poll using "thread tools" although I think your time is limited.

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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    To me it's funny the party that coined the phrase 'Big Tent' also coined the term 'RINO.' I personally think 'DINO' has a nice ring to it too, especially considering I grew up on Flintsrones reruns.

    Seriously, each party has their own platform and core values. I interestingly find myself at odds with my party on some issues but especially at odds with its current culture. At the same time I'm sure as much as all parties would love for its followers to be in lock-step agreement with all of their positions and culture, everyone does have their own brain and is free to hold any position they want. Then what happens? Which party do you think is more accepting of its followers not towing their party's line? What happens when a republican supports an end to the oil oligopoly? What happens when a democrat supports a traditional definition of marriage? Can a Green Party member be pro-business? Can a Libertarian support government funded higher education? Is it better for more independent minded Americans to just have no party affiliation?

    Sorry, iPad must have sensed the heat from my finger and thought I pressed save. No poll and cannot edit it in after the op is posted.
    Parties are neither tolerant or not, people within the party are. Human nature being as it is, all parties have their share of intolerant assholes. Probably best not to judge the parties on those people.
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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You can still post a poll using "thread tools" although I think your time is limited.
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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    My experience has been the way democrats and republicans react to opposing opinion is different, on a personal level. The republicans I've interacted with don't want to hear any opposition and eventually will no longer associate with you if you disagree with with. To my experience democrats are more like open to keeping the lines of communications open but will treat you with disrespect and even verbal abuse if you hold opposing views. Of course, there are exceptions and just my own experiences.

    As far are any characteristic difference between liberals and conservatives go, beyond commitment to principle conservatives generally don't embrace change as easily and often define right and wrong by whether or not something is traditional or new. Liberals tend to be more willing to embrace change. A big one I haven't been able to get my mind around is the conservative opposition to ending smokers rights to expose unwilling people to second-hand smoke. You'd think conservatives would be all about not forcing people the breathe others' toxic fumes against their will but to my surprise many have been against it. The only thing that makes sense IMHO is they do t like changing existing policy as opposed to any commitment to the principle of it. Again, there are exceptions and just my personal observations applying the conservative label to republicans and liberal to democrats.
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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Parties are neither tolerant or not, people within the party are. Human nature being as it is, all parties have their share of intolerant assholes. Probably best not to judge the parties on those people.
    This is true. I will mention some anectdotal evidence that Liberals tend to be, if not tolerant, at least not afraid to point out books and other media that you may find useful if you disagree with them. In fact it was someone who was very liberal who introduced me to Ayn Rand. "I think she was the biggest jerk ever, but you might like it" was how she described it

    I had a high school teacher who was a socialist. He had a bookcase with a sign on it :"Take a Book, Read the Book, Put it Back when You're Done. If You Really Liked it , Keep it!" Anyways, that was where I discovered William F. Buckley and Irwin Schiff.

    Lastly, after the OKC bombing, there was a local, liberal, talk show host who wanted to whet the audiences' curiosity over the militias and conspiracy theories. He thought it was all bunk, but he did mention a bookstore where one could buy all the literature one wanted. I remember dropping over $300 there.

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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    The only thing that makes sense IMHO is they do t like changing existing policy as opposed to any commitment to the principle of it.
    I would suggest that if this is the only reason you can think of why conservatives would want it, then you need to try and talk with an open mind to more conservatives and try to think from their actual point of view and not from a stereotyped liberal view of their POV.

    The general conservative/republican issue with these things is that they're regulations being placed upon businesses. It's not about changing current policy, it's about the government mandating what a business can/can't do in terms of a legal act by it's patrons. It's a situation where there are likely many conservatives/republicans who would LOVE a business that decided to do it themselves because they absolutely agree with the theory and feel it makes a better environment. However, when it's being forced upon businesses that creates a problem for the mindset of many republicans/conservatives.

    As to the question, I think both sides can be tolerant of poisitions outside of their official agenda, but it largely depends on WHAT those positions are. Both sides have sterling examples of individuals who have essentially felt isolated from the party to the point of switching sides or going independent due to their refusal to go lock step in line with the party. Indeed, on one end you have a former Presidential nominee whose viewed as a RINO and on the other end you have a former VP nominee who flat out had to leave the party.

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    Re: Which political party is most tolerant of positions outside of their official age

    Let's ask Max Baucus.

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