View Poll Results: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

Voters
150. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    22 14.67%
  • No

    125 83.33%
  • I don't know.

    3 2.00%
Page 39 of 47 FirstFirst ... 293738394041 ... LastLast
Results 381 to 390 of 468

Thread: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

  1. #381
    Sage
    MoSurveyor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    04-13-17 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,985

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    How did our ancestors ever survive before others employed them and paid them money?
    You want to bring back Locke's commons, where people can make their own living off the land with nothing but their body and wit? I'm good with that. Who's land shall we use?


    Many of our ancestors didn't survive. Is that your answer, let them die in the street?
    Mt. Rushmore: Three surveyors and some other guy.
    Life goes on within you and without you. -Harrison
    Hear the echoes of the centuries, Power isn't all that money buys. -Peart
    After you learn quantum mechanics you're never really the same again. -Weinberg

  2. #382
    Sage
    Guy Incognito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    12-02-17 @ 07:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,216

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um, lets play this out....lets say you are right....that these "private market" regulating entities were cheaper (of course, they would have to be profitable, but that is assumed), they would still require yearly fees to exist, so there would be some costs involved....but guess what, even in that regime, you would still have a black market because someone is always trying to avoid cost and authority.
    Um, it would t be a black market then, because it would be legal.

  3. #383
    Sage
    Guy Incognito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    12-02-17 @ 07:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,216

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Not so funny when the comb and scissors you use spread lice. There are reasons for the regulations we have and none of them have to do with kick-backs or the government making money off of it. You want to cut someones hair without a license, do it to your friends in your kitchen, bathroom, or on the deck.
    An unhygienic if barber will fail in a free market. Face it, the market works better. Your hand-wringing nanny-statism notwithstanding. People do not need to be managed like children.

    It is possible to get lice at a barber now. It happens a lot, always will. It will be less likely in a free market since the market incentivized success whereas government licensure encourages an attitude of "just good enough.". I'll take a market system over government coercion any day, as would any rational, unemotional person. Fear drives people to government but the government's promises of safety are illusory.
    Last edited by Guy Incognito; 05-03-13 at 09:01 AM.

  4. #384
    Sage
    MoSurveyor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Last Seen
    04-13-17 @ 04:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    9,985

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    An unhygienic if barber will fail in a free market. Face it, the market works better. Your hand-wringing nanny-statism notwithstanding. People do not need to be managed like children.
    Oh, I'm sure they'd fail eventually. The question is, how much damage will they do in the mean time? But, hey, I understand you don't give a crap about that. You think it'll all be settled in court. Yeah - OJ was innocent you know.


    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It is possible to get lice at a barber now. It happens a lot, always will. It will be less likely in a free market since the market incentivized success whereas government licensure encourages an attitude of "just good enough.". I'll take a market system over government coercion any day, as would any rational, unemotional person. Fear drives people to government but the government's promises of safety are illusory.
    Funny, 50 years and I never have - and that's just using whatever shop is closest.


    Bull. That spew doesn't work on me. Oh sure, in the perfect little world where everyone behaves the same and are perfect little bots it might work but, I hate to break this to you, our survival depends on us being different from one another. Some people will take advantage of other people one way or another and maybe do a lot of damage in the process - irreversible damage. Financial compensation from some kangaroo court decision with no teeth just isn't enough for some things. What price do you fix on a child's health? What about a father's life? I think the going rate for the death of the Average Joe is about $1M. Who can pay that back? Not some Nickel and Dime plating shop that's been dumping crap in the creek for 3 years and doesn't even own the building they use. Sorry, it's a Fantasy Land you live in. You've been sold a dream that doesn't exist in reality and may never exist.
    Mt. Rushmore: Three surveyors and some other guy.
    Life goes on within you and without you. -Harrison
    Hear the echoes of the centuries, Power isn't all that money buys. -Peart
    After you learn quantum mechanics you're never really the same again. -Weinberg

  5. #385
    Sage
    Guy Incognito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    12-02-17 @ 07:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,216

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Oh, I'm sure they'd fail eventually. The question is, how much damage will they do in the mean time? But, hey, I understand you don't give a crap about that. You think it'll all be settled in court. Yeah - OJ was innocent you know.


    Funny, 50 years and I never have - and that's just using whatever shop is closest.


    Bull. That spew doesn't work on me. Oh sure, in the perfect little world where everyone behaves the same and are perfect little bots it might work but, I hate to break this to you, our survival depends on us being different from one another. Some people will take advantage of other people one way or another and maybe do a lot of damage in the process - irreversible damage. Financial compensation from some kangaroo court decision with no teeth just isn't enough for some things. What price do you fix on a child's health? What about a father's life? I think the going rate for the death of the Average Joe is about $1M. Who can pay that back? Not some Nickel and Dime plating shop that's been dumping crap in the creek for 3 years and doesn't even own the building they use. Sorry, it's a Fantasy Land you live in. You've been sold a dream that doesn't exist in reality and may never exist.
    It is impossible to discuss this with you since you refuse to be civil.

  6. #386
    Banned
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Last Seen
    01-27-15 @ 11:37 AM
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    8,247

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Bull. That spew doesn't work on me. Oh sure, in the perfect little world where everyone behaves the same and are perfect little bots it might work but, I hate to break this to you, our survival depends on us being different from one another. Some people will take advantage of other people one way or another and maybe do a lot of damage in the process - irreversible damage. Financial compensation from some kangaroo court decision with no teeth just isn't enough for some things. What price do you fix on a child's health? What about a father's life? I think the going rate for the death of the Average Joe is about $1M. Who can pay that back? Not some Nickel and Dime plating shop that's been dumping crap in the creek for 3 years and doesn't even own the building they use. Sorry, it's a Fantasy Land you live in. You've been sold a dream that doesn't exist in reality and may never exist.
    Anyone can eliminate the potential for getting lice by only going to barbers that have been certified to be hygienic and free of lice.

    There's no need to order people about and initiate interpersonal violence against innocent people.

  7. #387
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    [QUOTE=APACHERAT;1061722902
    But there are some who believe that illegal aliens have a right to take American jobs away from citizens.[/QUOTE]



    If those citizens can't do their jobs well enough to hang on to them, maybe other people (from America or wherever) should have those jobs.

    BTW, what is an 'American job' (As opposed to a 'non-American job'.)?

    99.9999 percent of those who complain about immigrants have some immigrants in their family tree.

    Think about it.




    "All of the problems that we face in the United States today can be traced to an unenlightened immigration policy on the part of the American Indian." ~ Pat Paulsen

  8. #388
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Fear drives people to government but the government's promises of safety are illusory.


    Who defeated the Japanese and the Germans in WWII?

    Who killed Osama bin Laden?

    Case closed.

    The Libertarians will never run the U.S. government.

  9. #389
    Sage
    Guy Incognito's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Last Seen
    12-02-17 @ 07:43 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,216

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The Libertarians will never run the U.S. government.
    Fortunately you don't get to decide that. Libertarianism is becoming more popular every day as rational people wake up, and realize that it is not worth giving up fundamental liberty in exchange for illusory safety.

    Fear mongering authoritarians have been running the US government for too long, but it is coming to an end.
    Last edited by Guy Incognito; 05-03-13 at 12:11 PM.

  10. #390
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Fortunately you don't get to decide that. Libertarianism is becoming more popular every day as rational people wake up, and realize that it is not worth giving up fundamental liberty in exchange for illusory safety.

    Fear mongering authoritarians have been running the US government for too long, but it is coming to an end.


    Keep dreaming.

Page 39 of 47 FirstFirst ... 293738394041 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •