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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    I almost believe we should have a right to a job. It is such a waste of human lives and economic output to pay people to stay at home when they could work and contribute to the society.

    Its really horrible to see the situation in for instance southern Europe where getting employment is nearly impossible and young to be employedpeople have no future. Generally, there wouldn't have been this much problems in the first place if we let the market create new jobs. But most societies have made it way too hard to create new jobs.
    The solution for Southern Europe would be to allow employers to fire unproductive workers so those who do want to be employed can more easily be hired.
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And who is the federal government?
    The federal government


    It's just people. So you're saying that people have an obligation to provide these things.
    The federal government via institutions.


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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The federal government



    The federal government via institutions.
    The federal government is just the name we give to a group of people.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Hochbaum View Post
    Why would someone else have to be required to do that? The federal government has the ability to hire anyone unemployed without taxation.
    Something from nothing? No, most conservatives don't buy this. Most conservatives believe that anything a government funds works like a tax, whether retrospective, prospective, or direct.

    Most liberals appear to think however that government has the means to buy anything without creating any tax-like burden on anyone, or even more erroneously, that whatever burden their expenditures creates will somehow just come from those greedy super-rich bastards.

    Even if government were a bottomless piggybank, the way fiscal liberals seem to think, people still would not have a right to be furnished with a job by the external.
    Last edited by Neomalthusian; 04-26-13 at 01:26 PM.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Being a socialist i believe one has the right to a job and many more things as well.
    Please clarify though. In the non-socialist state of the U.S., we have the right to a job. Self employment.
    Do you mean by "right to a job", that everyone collectively must involuntarily pay for anyone who claims to "want a job", if technically they currently do not have a job?

    Because that is the right to force other people to pay you...

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    Please clarify though. In the non-socialist state of the U.S., we have the right to a job. Self employment.
    Do you mean by "right to a job", that everyone collectively must involuntarily pay for anyone who claims to "want a job", if technically they currently do not have a job?

    Because that is the right to force other people to pay you...
    They think that because money materializes through various debt and banking transactions, with some legislative help from Washington, that it burdens no one. That's basically what they're saying -- federal spending burdens no one.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    The federal government is just the name we give to a group of people.
    The federal government is a formal institution. Bureaucrats is a name we give to people that work for the feds.


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    Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The federal government is a formal institution. Bureaucrats is a name we give to people that work for the feds.
    Who pays for the things the federal government gives away? And hint - it isn't the federal government.
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Who pays for the things the federal government gives away? And hint - it isn't the federal government.
    Citizens of the US and A.
    Why are we doing a basic government lesson here?


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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The federal government is a formal institution. Bureaucrats is a name we give to people that work for the feds.
    So you're saying that if someone can't find a job then it is the responsibility of these bureaucrats to hire the person and give them a wage. No one else is responsible? The bureaucrats are on their own to find jobs and provide wages? Where do these bureaucrats get the money to do all this?

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