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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    They are already paying for them, except they don't work, and most of the budget is not going to unemployed.
    Too many theys and thems for me to understand exactly what you mean.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And where will the federal government acquire food, shelter, and clothing to give to these people?
    The federal government purchases things all the time, they supply people with the money and they purchase them from the private sector.
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Hochbaum View Post
    The federal government purchases things all the time, they supply people with the money and they purchase them from the private sector.
    And where does the federal government get the goods that it exchanges for the food, shelter, and clothing that it acquires from the private sector?

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    If there is a right to a job then it means that someone else has a legally enforceable obligation to provide a job and wages. Who would you say has a legal obligation to provide others with a job and pay?
    In the current system we have if one could not find a job then i believe the state has an obligation.


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    Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In the current system we have if one could not find a job then i believe the state has an obligation.
    Why does the state have an obligation?
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    In the current system we have if one could not find a job then i believe the state has an obligation.
    Who is the state?

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Who is the state?
    The federal government.


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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    The federal government.
    And who is the federal government?

    It's just people. So you're saying that people have an obligation to provide these things.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    The constitutional experts from the (not quite) right are rigid until it counts.
    Thatcher was no fan of the common man.
    Thatcher was British and not American and has no oath to the Constitution or any responceablity to it.
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Isn't there a fourth option of encouraging them to obtain the skills necessary to become employable?
    You mean like maybe provide them with 12 years or so of public education, then make funding available so they can borrow at a (relatively) reasonable rate in order to continue their education at the post secondary level, maybe incentivize service in the military by including educational funding as a "fringe benefit", add to that the ability to learn a trade while serving the country in case book learnin' ain't their thing, and all the while maintain a national dialog related to the importance of education in getting ahead?

    Don't take this as me being flip or obnoxious because that's not the way I intend it.

    But when you consider those things, and the many others which we do in this country already to provide people with skills or otherwise facilitate their getting a job I'd be curious how much more you think we can do or how successful any additional actions would be.

    Something like 14% of Americans don't even have a high school diploma and dropout rate in recent years has been in the neighborhood of 7% or 8%.

    It's one of those "you can lead a horse to water" type situations.

    The "tools" are there, but some people can't or won't make use of them.

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