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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
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    The Right to a job | Socialist Equality Party

    Interesting point of view. What do you think? Is having a job a right?

    Adding the poll right now. Answers will be yes, no and I don't know.
    Only if you think people have a right to eat, to shelter and to clothe themselves.
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Being a socialist i believe one has the right to a job and many more things as well.
    If there is a right to a job then it means that someone else has a legally enforceable obligation to provide a job and wages. Who would you say has a legal obligation to provide others with a job and pay?

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Hochbaum View Post
    Only if you think people have a right to eat, to shelter and to clothe themselves.
    Do they have a right to demand that others feed, shelter, and clothe them. Does this imply that someone out there has a legal obligation to feed, shelter, and clothe them?

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    My understanding is that the Federalist was important in NY but not really anywhere else. It was published in NY, not widely available outside of NY, and before the series was even completed the Constitution was well on the way to being ratified - 5 of the 9 states required for ratification had ratified by the end of January and the Federalist was started at the end of the previous October so perhaps half the series was done by then. So to say that the states took the Federalist arguments into account when they ratified is a debatable point.

    I don't believe in unlimited government. I believe in a very limited government at both the Federal and State levels. But my belief isn't what we're discussing. We're discussing what the Constitution means and it means what it
    means regardless of our individual belief systems.
    read the arguments of states during the ratification process and they state the same things government is limited, and its duties enumerated.

    i do no understand your last sentence, you agree government is very limited, but you believe government can use the general welfare to do anything they wish?
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    Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    read the arguments of states during the ratification process and they state the same things government is limited, and its duties enumerated.

    i do no understand your last sentence, you agree government is very limited, but you believe government can use the general welfare to do anything they wish?
    I haven't read the much on the state ratification votes but I will. Thanks.

    I agree that government should be limited. But I also believe that the Constitution, and all legal documents, mean what they say (I take Antonin Scalia's view of interpretation) and if the Constitution, when read literally, doesn't agree with my view of the world then my view doesn't matter.
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Do they have a right to demand that others feed, shelter, and clothe them. Does this imply that someone out there has a legal obligation to feed, shelter, and clothe them?
    Why would someone else have to be required to do that? The federal government has the ability to hire anyone unemployed without taxation.
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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Location:In the library of congress
    Seriously?

    I ask out of professional curiosity as I'm a librarian (too?).

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    I almost believe we should have a right to a job. It is such a waste of human lives and economic output to pay people to stay at home when they could work and contribute to the society.

    Its really horrible to see the situation in for instance southern Europe where getting employment is nearly impossible and young people have no future. Generally, there wouldn't have been this much problems in the first place if we let the market create new jobs. But most societies have made it way too hard to create new jobs.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by JP Hochbaum View Post
    Why would someone else have to be required to do that? The federal government has the ability to hire anyone unemployed without taxation.
    And where will the federal government acquire food, shelter, and clothing to give to these people?

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And where will the federal government acquire food, shelter, and clothing to give to these people?
    They are already paying for them, except they don't work, and most of the budget is not going to unemployed.

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