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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Surfing the net, I came across this.



    The Right to a job | Socialist Equality Party

    Interesting point of view. What do you think? Is having a job a right?

    Adding the poll right now. Answers will be yes, no and I don't know.
    Nice debate going on here.

    What I find humorous is that Socialists who write this drivel never say that they have to give an honest day's work for the income they earn. Most likely if you mention that those paying them get their money's worth, they will accuse you of being an 'exploiter of the working classes', or some such nonsense.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    If I try to, I'll only get more explosive.
    Actually I'm emptying myself of 6 weeks of not posting.
    I get sick of listening to the phonies on the right speaking as if they "know" the Constitution.
    It depends on the issue with them, like "God".
    I love the word "Creator". There is no need to expand on it, as righties would say about their issues.

    I don't believe you are one of the phonies.
    Your stuff is worth reading.
    I still keep up with reading when I go back to teaching after this week and spring break.
    I have too much work to post though.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    can you rephrase that...

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Being a socialist is better than being a Rogue Rightie Rewriting truth.
    How bad is the current Gilded Age from 1-10?

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    If I try to, I'll only get more explosive.
    Actually I'm emptying myself of 6 weeks of not posting.
    I get sick of listening to the phonies on the right speaking as if they "know" the Constitution.
    It depends on the issue with them, like "God".
    I love the word "Creator". There is no need to expand on it, as righties would say about their issues.

    I don't believe you are one of the phonies.
    Your stuff is worth reading.
    I still keep up with reading when I go back to teaching after this week and spring break.
    I have too much work to post though.
    the creator is subjective to the reader, it simply means that the founders ,say rights come from a higher authority than government, and since government do not grants rights, they have no power to take them from you.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I've thought about it. I'll denounce my American citizenship. Head to TJ and see if the Blue Ox Cafe is still in business and catch the "Donkey Show." When the sun sets I'll illegally cross the border as an "undocumented Democrat." I'll also will be considered to be a "protected group" so if those gringos call me a wetback or an illegal alien they will be labeled as racist.

    I'll make my way to a sanctuary city like Los Angeles and drop by MacArthur Park and purchase a social security card in which the SS number will actually belong to an America. But being one of the "protected groups" I don't have to worry about being prosecuted for identity theft where as an American would be prosecuted and be sent to prison.

    Have to purchase a green card and three or five drivers licenses all under different alias names. Never use your real name when your an illegal alien in America. If I get busted for a crime, I just don't show up in court and never use that name again.

    Even illegal aliens get horny. Time to find an illegal alien of the opposite sex. Pop out an anchor baby and it's like coming across a gold mine. Food stamps, HUD subsidized housing. WICS, ADC. Have to apply for a Tax Payers ID Number so I can get that Earned Income Tax Credit.

    Well I could use one of my alias ID's and get a job flipping burgers or I could stand in front of Home Depot and become a day labor and make $20. an hour cash under the table, no taxes !!!

    And when I get to old to work the Democrats should just about be ready to pass another amnesty. I'll be rewarded with a green card and can apply for Social Security Retirement Benefits even though I didn't pay in to the system.

    Conclusion, those American gringos are so stupid.
    Good afternoon, Apacherat!

    You are to commended for your well thought out plan of action! Kudos... :

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    We all have a "Creator". I would call that Objective.

    Did you agree with the Patriot Act taking away some rights.

    Government, in the form of the original Founding Fathers, gave gun-owners their original rights.
    We're heading back to "gun deregulation".

    I may not agree with Heidi Heitkamp's vote on registration.
    Without this, she is taking away the rights to safety from people who even you say shouldn't have guns.

    However, as a stage 4 cancer survivor, she supports Obamacare and North Dakota bought in since they are older and need it. She has given the best defense of it I have heard.

    She and Tester are enigmas in the Dem party. good riddance to Baucus.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    the creator is subjective to the reader, it simply means that the founders ,say rights come from a higher authority than government, and since government do not grants rights, they have no power to take them from you.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    no one has the power to force you hire someone, or make you perform an action unless you commit a crime.

    Section 1.
    Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction
    If you can not compel someone to hire then there is no right to a job.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    If you can not compel someone to hire then there is no right to a job.
    Or, to flip it around, if there is a right to a job, then that implies that people can be compelled (enslaved) to provide jobs.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    I'd rather have the right to stay at home and do nothing.
    Either I'm right or you're wrong.

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    Re: Do You Have a Right to a Job?

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    We all have a "Creator". I would call that Objective.
    the founders left it up to the reader to decide.


    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Did you agree with the Patriot Act taking away some rights.
    yes, its unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Government, in the form of the original Founding Fathers, gave gun-owners their original rights.
    We're heading back to "gun deregulation".
    no the founders did not give any rights, the words grant or give do not appear in the BOR.

    the BOR affirms the rights you were born with in nature, or the creator gave you, however you wish to see it.

    the BOR are declaratory and restrictive clauses, OFF limits to government

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