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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Maybe they had similar political sentiments and forged a kinship where one sought out and gained from the experience and connections of the other. Is this the type of candidate you would vote for?
    This is known as the "association logical fallacy". Let's see a few others who "associated" with known terrorist:

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    Thatcher and Arafat

    Would you vote for a candidate who...-ronald-reagan-meets-taliban-jpg
    Reagan and the Taliban

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    Bush with Noriega

    See how easy it is? The association logical fallacy. Great way to make a non-existent point... exactly what zimmer is doing.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

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    Those working in government securing our freedom and using one group of idiots (like Saddam) as a counterweight to the Iranians during the Cold War doesn't qualify.
    I'm not so thinking so much about the relationship with the 'idiot' as making some sort of symboliic statement on the kind of friends we have so political opponents can use that as fodder during elections as say 'such and such pals around with fill-in-the-blank but an enabling relationship that made us complicit in atrocities ongoingly against innocent people. US supported rape rooms and mass graves.

    Agree or disagree, these decisions are in the interest of the nation whether you or I particularly like their choice or not.
    Translation: we're addicted to oil, we been addicted to oil for decades and people who actively resist breaking the oil oligopoly should be ashamed of themselves and need to think about all the people who have suffered unspeakable cruelty because we've not only refused to support other personal transportation options but have actively opposed them.

    I'm looking more at the tolerance level of private individuals who sought the assistance or a relationship with an unrepentant terrorist or terrorists. Could someone... and why would someone vote for an individual with so little character or judgment?
    I can't help but to think of the blatant double standards we apply to 'their' candidates while ignoring our own. Right and wrong isn't about principle but who's team are they on.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    If a candidate chooses to hang around with ANYONE - so long as they are not wanted by American authorities - then it is none of my business.

    I care about how they stand on the issues that matter to me - virtually nothing else.
    So an admitted, unrepentant terrorist who said he didn't do enough, an unrepentant terrorist who got off on a technicality is none of your business when a political candidate seeks out this individual's assistance up the political ladder? Really? Has no impact?

    That isn't an "issue" for you?
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by Smeagol View Post
    I'm not so thinking so much about the relationship with the 'idiot' as making some sort of symboliic statement on the kind of friends we have so political opponents can use that as fodder during elections as say 'such and such pals around with fill-in-the-blank but an enabling relationship that made us complicit in atrocities ongoingly against innocent people. US supported rape rooms and mass graves.
    Who your friends are reflects who you are. Obama chose Ayers knowing full well the idiot was a terrorist.

    I don't know of a Republican candidate that sought out an unrepentant terrorist who hated his country so much as to bomb it, and then use said idiot to help make his way up the Democratic Party ladder. Do you?
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Personally, I could care less about being seen in the same photo with a despot. IMHO that's political gotcha junk. What matters to me is did we offer material support for despots that were used to committ murder and rape after knowing full well these are the kind of things they do with their power.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is known as the "association logical fallacy". Let's see a few others who "associated" with known terrorist:

    Would you vote for a candidate who...-thatcher-and-arafat-jpg
    Thatcher and Arafat

    Would you vote for a candidate who...-ronald-reagan-meets-taliban-jpg
    Reagan and the Taliban

    Would you vote for a candidate who...-bush_noriega-jpg
    Bush with Noriega

    See how easy it is? The association logical fallacy. Great way to make a non-existent point... exactly what zimmer is doing.
    Not so easy... were they in their roles as elected officials? Yes.

    Obama was seeking office and sought out Ayers... a terrorist who hated his country so much as to bomb it.

    Nice try at psychobabbling... we are making progress... we are getting a peek into the Lib mind and how they rationalize the Ayers/Obama relationship. If you were on the board reviewing whether criminals should be released... I think many would want you on their case.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Who your friends are reflects who you are. Obama chose Ayers knowing full well the idiot was a terrorist.

    I don't know of a Republican candidate that sought out an unrepentant terrorist who hated his country so much as to bomb it, and then use said idiot to help make his way up the Democratic Party ladder. Do you?
    I respect your position but I think there's a difference between 'using' someone who did bad things decades ago and helping people do bad things going forward after knowing the tpe of people they are.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    So an admitted, unrepentant terrorist who said he didn't do enough, an unrepentant terrorist who got off on a technicality is none of your business when a political candidate seeks out this individual's assistance up the political ladder? Really? Has no impact?

    That isn't an "issue" for you?
    OK.
    So long as the 'terrorist' is not wanted by the authorities in any way - then what he does with the candidate...providing it is legal and does not interfere with how a candidate stands on an issue that is important to me...is virtually irrelevant to me.

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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Who your friends are reflects who you are. Obama chose Ayers knowing full well the idiot was a terrorist.

    I don't know of a Republican candidate that sought out an unrepentant terrorist who hated his country so much as to bomb it, and then use said idiot to help make his way up the Democratic Party ladder. Do you?
    No it doesn't - not necessarily.

    I have friends that do things that I do not agree with.

    I like them as people, but I do not agree with what they do, nor would I support that part of their lives in any way.

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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Not so easy... were they in their roles as elected officials? Yes.

    Obama was seeking office and sought out Ayers... a terrorist who hated his country so much as to bomb it. Nice try at psychobabbling... we are making progress... we are getting a peek into the Lib mind and how they rationalize the Ayers/Obama relationship.
    Terrorists who these important conservatives associated with. We are getting a peak into the hypocritical and dishonest mind with each and every one of your posts, zim. See, in your world, it's OK for a conservative to associate with a terrorist... who just might be a powerful dictator and give him some aid to continue his terrorism or dictatorship. Where's your outrage, zim? Reagan HELPED the Taliban. Was he stupid? Did he do it for political gain? Why would he help terrorists? Why did Thatcher associate with Arafat a KNOWN terrorist? And look at how buddy-buddy Bush is with Noriega. These conservative leaders had a direct impact on these terrorists/dictators staying in power. Where's your outrage, zim?

    This thread didn't turn out as you expected, did it? So easy to pwn, you are.
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