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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    A terrorist is a terrorist. Associating with one for whatever reason demonstrates support for the terrorist.
    So Democrats support terrorism at some level. OK... I accept the obvious.

    Tell me... you're a professional psychobabbler... how do you explain this? Is it power at all costs? Did the voters believe Ayers was not associated with Obama? Did they think he used Nerf Bombs? How does a political party promote someone who sought out a domestic terrorist for assistance up the Democrat Party ladder? How does that happen, when something like Bush 43's supposed AWOL story or DUI was grounds to disqualify him from office?

    Changing the goalposts now just demonstrates your dishonesty and how badly you've been pwned in this thread. EVERYONE'S seen it and now you are desperately trying to redact you OP. Total failure, zim. You really should think these things through a bit better.
    No changing goal posts, and there would have been no need for this thread had a simple question not been sent to the nether-lands.

    As some here realized (right from the start)... it was a lawyerly move of asking the same question in a manner that appeases the court. As we went along... I made clarifications to questions asked. You failed to realize this... are you telling me the post went over your head?

    I'm not surprised.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    So Democrats support terrorism at some level.
    Pretty much every administration and Congress the US has supported some form of terrorism against someone. Pretty much every STATE in HISTORY has supported some form of terrorism against someone.

    Terrorism once again is a method. Noble or not goals do not change the methods.

    No changing goal posts, and there would have been no need for this thread had a simple question not been sent to the nether-lands.
    Nether-lands? Under your OWN CRITERIA, Reagan and Bush qualify. You voted for both, how about you explain why you voted for candidates with terrorist relationships?

    Your bait thread has collapsed under its own pathetic framework. Rather then make this about Obama, your own criteria has backfired and in a way that makes one of your idols look really bad. You can't stand this, nor do you want to admit it, so you are now trying to pretend it was about "before" their time in office even thought your OP said nothing of the sort. Own up for a change.

    As some here realized (right from the start)... it was a lawyerly move of asking the same question in a manner that appeases the court. As we went along... I made clarifications to questions asked. You failed to realize this... are you telling me the post went over your head?
    Too bad this is not how it's done here. Furthermore, even if we still do it, Bush qualifies as he had strong ties to the House of Saud. You voted for him despite that. Explain why.

    Furthermore, at this point, I am assuming based on your adamant refusal to clarify your position of the Contras that you consider the rape and murder of children to be less bad than Obama's old relationship with Mr. Ayers.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    So Democrats support terrorism at some level.
    So, Republicans support terrorism at some level.


    No changing goal posts, and there would have been no need for this thread had a simple question not been sent to the nether-lands.
    Of course you did. Your OP had no qualifications. Once you got pwned, you altered your parameters to meet your agenda.

    As some here realized (right from the start)... it was a lawyerly move of asking the same question in a manner that appeases the court. As we went along... I made clarifications to questions asked. You failed to realize this... are you telling me the post went over your head?

    I'm not surprised.
    You tried to bait people into a specific response... and when that didn't work out for you, you changed the parameters of your question. You are now being dishonest... which is not surprising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    No it does not.

    It simply means that there is a reason that the person was associating with a person who happened to be a terrorist.

    Maybe they were old friends - before the other guy became a terrorist.

    Maybe they have a mutual friend.

    Maybe they have the same accountant.

    Maybe they like the same porn.

    Maybe they have a mutual prostitute and they are comparing notes.

    Maybe they belong to the same encounter group.


    Or maybe if the authorities are looking for the terrorist - then it's your business.

    But if the terrorist is not wanted by U.S. law enforcement agencies, then maybe it is none of your business who he associates with - including a political candidate.


    I care how as candidate stands on the issues that matter to me.

    I could care less what he does with his spare time - so long as it is legal.
    Maybe they had similar political sentiments and forged a kinship where one sought out and gained from the experience and connections of the other. Is this the type of candidate you would vote for?
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    No it does not.

    It simply means that there is a reason that the person was associating with a person who happened to be a terrorist.

    Maybe they were old friends - before the other guy became a terrorist.

    Maybe they have a mutual friend.

    Maybe they have the same accountant.

    Maybe they like the same porn.

    Maybe they have a mutual prostitute and they are comparing notes.

    Maybe they belong to the same encounter group.


    Or maybe if the authorities are looking for the terrorist - then it's your business.

    But if the terrorist is not wanted by U.S. law enforcement agencies, then maybe it is none of your business who he associates with - including a political candidate.


    I care how as candidate stands on the issues that matter to me.

    I could care less what he does with his spare time - so long as it is legal.
    In the context of the OP, my post is on target. As is yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    So, Republicans support terrorism at some level.
    Tell me of a candidate before coming to office that forged a relationship with a known and unrepentant terrorist, or even a known and repentant terrorist.

    I recall the Republicans put up a firewall against former Democrat David Duke.


    Of course you did. Your OP had no qualifications. Once you got pwned, you altered your parameters to meet your agenda. You tried to bait people into a specific response... and when that didn't work out for you, you changed the parameters of your question. You are now being dishonest... which is not surprising.
    No... I clarified when people asked questions... and you well know why the OP is phrased as it is... but honesty was never your strong suit, though it is a bit stronger than OC.

    Or are you so ignorant as to believe the claim quoted above?
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Maybe they had similar political sentiments and forged a kinship where one sought out and gained from the experience and connections of the other. Is this the type of candidate you would vote for?
    Nowhere as bad as someone who puts a man who started a rumor that his primary candidate opponent's adopted daughter was really the illegitimate child with a black stripper in charge. And that was relatively recently. And he kept that same person on staff for years. Really, a man with effectively no morals whatsoever running your various campaigns, including your Presidential election and reelection, doesn't that cause more red flags then the guy you used to hang around with decades ago who you don't talk to anymore?

    As opposed to Ayer's relationship which was literally decades ago.

    People change. But the company you keep says much. I'd put far more emphasis on the current hired help then on the guy you talked to when you first started.

    That said, I vote for "Maybe they like the same porn."
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Tell me of a candidate before coming to office that forged a relationship with a known and unrepentant terrorist, or even a known and repentant terrorist.

    I recall the Republicans put up a firewall against former Democrat David Duke.
    I already posted a picture of one.

    No... I clarified when people asked questions... and you well know why the OP is phrased as it is... but honesty was never your strong suit, though it is a bit stronger than OC.

    Or are you so ignorant as to believe the claim quoted above?
    You are dishonest enough to alter your parameters when you don't get the answer you want. It's how you debate. You wanted an answer. You didn't get it... so you attempted to change your question to GET the answer you want. EVERYONE sees it zim. You are so transparent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    No... I clarified when people asked questions... and you well know why the OP is phrased as it is... but honesty was never your strong suit, though it is a bit stronger than OC.
    You have to be completely gullible to believe that.

    You got PWNED and now you are trying to change the framework to get the answers you want.
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    Re: Would you vote for a candidate who...

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Maybe they had similar political sentiments and forged a kinship where one sought out and gained from the experience and connections of the other. Is this the type of candidate you would vote for?
    If a candidate chooses to hang around with ANYONE - so long as they are not wanted by American authorities - then it is none of my business.

    I care about how they stand on the issues that matter to me - virtually nothing else.

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