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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "Now that a bipartisan blue-ribbon panel has reached the conclusion that President George W. Bush and his top advisers bear “ultimate responsibility” for authorizing torture in violation of domestic and international law, the question becomes what should the American people and their government do."

    What to Do with G.W. Bush? | Consortiumnews


    "The logical answer would seem to be: prosecute Bush and his cronies (or turn them over to an international tribunal if the U.S. legal system can’t do the job). After all, everyone, including President Barack Obama and possibly even Bush himself, would agree with the principle that “no man is above the law.”

    "The report also noted that the behavior of the Bush administration deviated from the most honorable traditions of U.S. history, dating back to the Revolutionary War and General George Washington’s instructions to his troops not to respond to British cruelty in kind but to treat prisoners of war humanely.
    In contrast to those traditions, after the 9/11 attacks, the Bush administration approved specific techniques of torture while formulating legal rationalizations for these violations of law. Never before, the report found, had there been “the kind of considered and detailed discussions that occurred after 9/11 directly involving a president and his top advisers on the wisdom, propriety and legality of inflicting pain and torment on some detainees in our custody.”

    Was this illegal?

    Would you be prosecuted?
    SHould Englund and Graner be pardoned?
    Should torture be legal?
    Did you know this before this thread?
    Should GWBush continue receiving his pension?
    As a life long military man I see nothing that Bush Jr. did wrong or that was against the rule of war. This sounds more like a partisan witch hunts ala the Salem Witch hunts than one that should be taken serious. Bush Jr. has been gone from the scene for more than 4 years, it is time to take of today's business and problems, not to harp on the past. That is unless you are a die hard partisan.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Nothing will ever come of this, it's a pipe-dream by leftwing partisan nutjobs.
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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    I think there's a wide gap between "mistake" and "intentionally lied to the American people and the whole world for several years in order to justify an unnecessary war." Also the torture of prisoners in Gitmo. I know of no definition of war criminal that includes the Middle Eastern dictators that we've been going after that excludes GWB.
    You need to pick up a dictionary unless you have evidence that Bush didn't believe that there were no WMD's in Iraq.

    When you have Saddam Hussein telling the UN before we went to war that he lost track of 450 artillery shells filled with mustard gas and sarin gas and has no idea where they were. That's not good enough, the UN cease fire agreement required that Iran account for every milligram of chemical that could be used as a weapon.

    But we did eventually found 400 mustard and sarin artillery shells buried in the desert. Is anyone concerned with the 50 that are unaccounted for ?

    For one to be lieing that person must be aware he's lieing. If Bush even believed there was a 1 % chance that Saddam had WMD's then he wasn't lieing.

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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Was the "blue ribbon panel" asked to opine on Obama's use of drones to murder American citizens, without due process, even those who are innocent of any crime, as well as thousands of innocent citizens of countries America is not at war with?

    The left has their partisan knickers in a twist over a few days of waterboarding, that was legally approved by government legal staff and that incidentally led directly to Obama's finest moment, the taking out of bin Laden, yet looks the other way when their messiah kills people solely on the basis of his wishes.

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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neosteve View Post
    WTF is a Blue Ribbon Bi-Partisan Panel? Holy Crap.
    I don't know, but it sure sounds important.

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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Nothing will ever come of this, it's a pipe-dream by leftwing partisan nutjobs.
    Of course it is a pipe dream. Just because I think he should be prosecuted doesn't mean for a second that I think he will. Of course he won't. Presidential immunity pretty much precludes it.

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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Was the "blue ribbon panel" asked to opine on Obama's use of drones to murder American citizens, without due process, even those who are innocent of any crime, as well as thousands of innocent citizens of countries America is not at war with?

    The left has their partisan knickers in a twist over a few days of waterboarding, that was legally approved by government legal staff and that incidentally led directly to Obama's finest moment, the taking out of bin Laden, yet looks the other way when their messiah kills people solely on the basis of his wishes.
    There is not an iota of evidence that indicates that torture led to binLaden. End of story. GWBush is guilty of torture by any measure. Let bygones be bygones. Kiss my cojones, but that is a crime. Just because he killed more Iraqis than Saddam Hussein is another good reason to try him. If it was wrong for Saddam to kill Iraqis, it was more wrong for GWShiiteForBrains. GwShiiteForBrains because the half a million dead Iraqis rest in the cerebral conscience of the person responsible for their deaths and since they are mostly Shiites, it accounts for GWShiiteForBrains. Within the cerebellum, don't you think?

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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    my gut says prosecute while my head says no, he relied on a legal opinion which gave basis to proceed with "enhanced interrogation" methods

    both head and gut say we should subject the authors of that legal opinion to the professional scrutiny of their peers. would love for it to be found that cheney ordered the opinion to crafted with a specified outcome. then there would be very legitmate basis for trial
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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    "Now that a bipartisan blue-ribbon panel has reached the conclusion that President George W. Bush and his top advisers bear “ultimate responsibility” for authorizing torture in violation of domestic and international law, the question becomes what should the American people and their government do."

    What to Do with G.W. Bush? | Consortiumnews


    "The logical answer would seem to be: prosecute Bush and his cronies (or turn them over to an international tribunal if the U.S. legal system can’t do the job). After all, everyone, including President Barack Obama and possibly even Bush himself, would agree with the principle that “no man is above the law.”

    "The report also noted that the behavior of the Bush administration deviated from the most honorable traditions of U.S. history, dating back to the Revolutionary War and General George Washington’s instructions to his troops not to respond to British cruelty in kind but to treat prisoners of war humanely.
    In contrast to those traditions, after the 9/11 attacks, the Bush administration approved specific techniques of torture while formulating legal rationalizations for these violations of law. Never before, the report found, had there been “the kind of considered and detailed discussions that occurred after 9/11 directly involving a president and his top advisers on the wisdom, propriety and legality of inflicting pain and torment on some detainees in our custody.”

    Was this illegal?

    Would you be prosecuted?
    SHould Englund and Graner be pardoned?
    Should torture be legal?
    Did you know this before this thread?
    Should GWBush continue receiving his pension?
    ... the American people are too uninvolved in the process of war to be his judge.
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    Re: What to Do with G.W. Bush?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my gut says prosecute while my head says no, he relied on a legal opinion which gave basis to proceed with "enhanced interrogation" methods

    both head and gut say we should subject the authors of that legal opinion to the professional scrutiny of their peers. would love for it to be found that cheney ordered the opinion to crafted with a specified outcome. then there would be very legitmate basis for trial

    If torture was illegal for Graner and Englund leading to jail, then the same should be true for Bush and Cheney and perhaps others, but the final decision was the "decider's," to quote his own self description.

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