View Poll Results: How serious a problem is the divide between the wealthy and the rest of us?

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  • Not a problem at all.

    35 28.46%
  • A problem, but not a serious one.

    8 6.50%
  • A fairly serious problem.

    42 34.15%
  • It's not just a "problem." It's a catastrophe that is only getting worse.

    38 30.89%
  • This divide does not exist.

    0 0%
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Still waiting on that plan to balance the budget overnight without deep cuts to old-age care or defense.
    FICA was never meant to be part of the general budget, so as long as the SSA is in the black, which will be for a long time, I don't see the issue.

    But, hey, if the Federal Reserve wants to quit honoring it's obligations then everyone is pretty much SOL.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Is overnight a prerequisite?
    It's funny, a little over a decade ago they managed to balance the budget without cutting into SSA or welfare. Now it's impossible, according to some. Seems like a scam to me.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    As I said before, even if we all had degrees or were skilled there would still be a need for janitors and file clerks.
    There will be landscapers, waitresses, parking attendants, and toll booth collectors too.

    I'm not really sure what your point is though.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Innumeral means "without number".

    Infinite.

    Not accurate.
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    in·nu·mer·a·ble [ih-noo-mer-uh-buhl, ih-nyoo-] Show IPA
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    very numerous.
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    incapable of being counted; countless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Don't do careers.

    Bet I know how to do FAR more things than you do.

    Specialization is for insects.
    You're gloating to me about being unable to find a job?

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    There will be landscapers, waitresses, parking attendants, and toll booth collectors too.

    I'm not really sure what your point is though.
    Like I said, even if everyone had the education and skill levels you think are required for better pay there will still be people, with higher education and/or good skills, that will be sweeping floors and waiting tables. Those jobs you so haphazardly dismiss as "unskilled labor" are no less vital to society than the computer programmers or the loan officers.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
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    You're gloating to me about being unable to find a job?
    Did I say I didn't have a job?

    Or just that I don't do one thing my whole life?

    Perhaps the specialization comment was outside your specialty.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Great thread/poll. I love how you exposed so many people who can't google anything. Corporate profits are at an all time high and workers wages are at an all time low. Money has ALWAYS been the biggest divider of nations. The ironic thing is that those who spend it don't recognize they are spending it, AND THAT'S A FACT

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Did I say I didn't have a job?

    Or just that I don't do one thing my whole life?

    Perhaps the specialization comment was outside your specialty.
    In fact, many jobs are non-specific. Surveying is one of them. While we do "specialize" in measurement it takes a lot of other knowledge and skill to do our jobs correctly, which is the main reason I latched on to it years ago. I couldn't stand doing the same thing day-in-day-out - tried that and hated it. Even though the changes in surveying are mostly seasonal (more or less repeating annually but in different locations), it was enough to keep things different so I didn't get bored.

    Running a small business is like that, too. You have to wear a lot of hats to run a small business.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Like I said, even if everyone had the education and skill levels you think are required for better pay there will still be people, with higher education and/or good skills, that will be sweeping floors and waiting tables. Those jobs you so haphazardly dismiss as "unskilled labor" are no less vital to society than the computer programmers or the loan officers.
    And like I said numerous times now, I'm not sure what your point is. At no point have I said otherwise.

    Also, I haven't haphazardly dismissed anyone. What If said technology was supposed to provide jobs and I pointed out that they did to those who went out and acquired the education and skillsets for those jobs. That's not haphazardly dismissing anyone. It's stating the obvious.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    The problem you've noted is that some think it's stealing and some don't, meaning there is no real consensus among Libertarians.
    Correct, there is no consensus.

    What about you, personally? You've been defending the turf, so to speak, what do you think?
    I tend to see the collection of taxes as an initiation of interpersonal violence with the goal of taking another person's property. As such, I can't support them, as I regard all initiations of violence against people who have harmed no other person or other person's property to be unjustified.

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