View Poll Results: How serious a problem is the divide between the wealthy and the rest of us?

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  • Not a problem at all.

    35 28.46%
  • A problem, but not a serious one.

    8 6.50%
  • A fairly serious problem.

    42 34.15%
  • It's not just a "problem." It's a catastrophe that is only getting worse.

    38 30.89%
  • This divide does not exist.

    0 0%
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    so why has the US - which was so advanced, started to go backwards?
    The divide between the rich and the rest-00003011-jpgomics
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    as I said, it is obvious that you confuse ideology with economics.
    Do you think it is justified to use interpersonal violence against someone who has not harmed anyone's person or property?

    And please note, that is not a question about economics. It is a question about ethics.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    And please note, that is not a question about economics. It is a question about ethics.
    and highly flamable, too, considering it is a question constructed completely from straw.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    and highly flamable, too, considering it is a question constructed completely from straw.
    Nope. I am not misstating anyone's position and then arguing against that. I am asking a simple question.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Do you think it is justified to use interpersonal violence against someone who has not harmed anyone's person or property?

    And please note, that is not a question about economics. It is a question about ethics.
    that is too cryptic for me .... can you explain how that is relevant to anything I have said?
    Every political good carried to the extreme must be productive of evil.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    that is too cryptic for me .... can you explain how that is relevant to anything I have said?
    Sure, earlier I said this:
    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Or perhaps he has to much invested in his own ability to control his own person and property. The hand wringing ninnies, as he calls them, inevitably want control over our person (making us do things) and our property (taking things from us).
    You responded that my statement was a fantasy.

    However, my statement was simply an observation that there are many people who think that it is justifiable to use interpersonal force against people in order to accomplish their ends.

    In my opinion, interpersonal force is ONLY justified as a RESPONSE to harm (i.e. unsolicited actions that physically affect another's person or property). There is no justification for using interpersonal violence against someone who has not not harmed anyone or their property.

    So, in order to understand where you're coming from, I asked you your opinion on the subject. Do you think is it justified to initiate interpersonal violence against someone who is not or has not harmed someone else?

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    The divide between the rich and the rest-00003011-jpgomics
    So you accept the premise, glad you took the time to answer.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you accept the premise, glad you took the time to answer.
    Yes, I do acknowledge fact and truth rather than being blinded by ideology.

    thank you for noticing.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    Sure, earlier I said this:


    You responded that my statement was a fantasy.

    However, my statement was simply an observation that there are many people who think that it is justifiable to use interpersonal force against people in order to accomplish their ends.

    In my opinion, interpersonal force is ONLY justified as a RESPONSE to harm (i.e. unsolicited actions that physically affect another's person or property). There is no justification for using interpersonal violence against someone who has not not harmed anyone or their property.

    So, in order to understand where you're coming from, I asked you your opinion on the subject. Do you think is it justified to initiate interpersonal violence against someone who is not or has not harmed someone else?
    the important phrase is that bolded above ... in your opinion there is somehow a connection with interpersonal violence, but I don't see that.

    This probably indicates that you are far more likely than I to use violence in trying to resolve differences.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    the important phrase is that bolded above ... in your opinion there is somehow a connection with interpersonal violence, but I don't see that.

    This probably indicates that you are far more likely than I to use violence in trying to resolve differences.
    Quite the contrary. For example, I would wager that between the two of you, you are far more likely to use violence than he is to force your opinion of the proper amount I should be giving to charity, to healthcare for the elderly, etc.

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