View Poll Results: How serious a problem is the divide between the wealthy and the rest of us?

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  • Not a problem at all.

    35 28.46%
  • A problem, but not a serious one.

    8 6.50%
  • A fairly serious problem.

    42 34.15%
  • It's not just a "problem." It's a catastrophe that is only getting worse.

    38 30.89%
  • This divide does not exist.

    0 0%
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    Sure, if they have the right skill set.

    How many labors went out and got degrees in computer science?
    So there are 100 million plus programming jobs out there?

    and ANYBODY can be a programmer? Or has the talent to be a content creator?

    look up "post labor economy" and get back to me.

    Your memes are making you look foolish.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    We were communists when societies consisted of a few dozen people and had no resources. It easy to be equals when everyone is starving. Once you start meeting basic human needs for survival and societies grow larger and more complex, keeping that equality is antithetical to functionality. Inequality has always been a feature of settled civilization.

    If you want communism, feel free to move back into the woods.
    1. Granted, equal outcome is easier with a very small range of circumstances, especially when generally being dead or alive with only food quantity in between.
    2. Let's not confuse equal outcome with equal opportunity. Women were property in ancient society and surely not granted any kind of political or legal equality.

    You seem to have combined the 'noble savage' with a superficial interpretation of communism, and there's no validity to either.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by marywollstonecraft View Post
    It is interesting that you have this fantasy that people who regard social equality as a good thing are themselves likely to be impoverished, or lacking in financial acumen.

    In general, I find that people who think in such limited stereotypes an be quite blinkered when considering investment options.
    That is because those who have money and want to help out the less fortunate actually put their money where their mouth is and donate. Its the difference between the talkers and the walkers, and talking never made anyone rich.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Just because money doesn't buy happiness doesn't mean that inequality has no function.
    I don't recall calling for equality - I merely pointed out the fact that a global rich set now exist who often migrate to wherever the tax system suits them best and they are as global as the money they make. In terms of London I did point out that a lot of the super rich were actually from a multitude of countries around the globe.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    So there are 100 million plus programming jobs out there?

    and ANYBODY can be a programmer? Or has the talent to be a content creator?

    look up "post labor economy" and get back to me.

    Your memes are making you look foolish.

    Happens sometimes, don't feel bad.
    So, there are 100,000,000 unemployed laborers here in the United States?

    Are you sure about that, Clark? That seems foolish even for you.

    Of course I didn't say all 100,000,000 unemployed laborers that you've counted here in the United States can only get jobs in programing. I said if they had the right skill set they could find jobs and that was an example of a skill set.

    How many got degrees in computer science?

    How about degrees in engineering?

    Applied math?

    Physics?

    IT?

    How many of these 100,000,000 that you see went out to earn degrees or certificates in less difficult fields? How many of them became dental hygienists or LPNs? How many of them obtained a degree in physical education for elementary education?

    Maybe a better question for you is how many people sat their fat asses down on couches across the United States looking for a handout because they choose not to retrain and find new jobs?

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatter View Post
    I don't recall calling for equality - I merely pointed out the fact that a global rich set now exist who often migrate to wherever the tax system suits them best and they are as global as the money they make. In terms of London I did point out that a lot of the super rich were actually from a multitude of countries around the globe.
    And whats your point? Let me ask you a question, do you shop at a market that best suits your needs, or do you decide to pay more for a lower quality service just because? Free markets means money will flow where the return is the highest and that in turn ensures maximum efficiency. Taxes are no different, without a free diffusion of money from one area to another, countries would have no motivation to maximize the efficiency of their tax systems. Otherwise, the dead-weight losses would just continue to grow larger and larger while R&D and capital investments continue to grow smaller and smaller.

    I'm just waiting for the day when our government stops thinking they can fit a square peg into a round hole; and decides to develop a land value tax.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    So there are 100 million plus programming jobs out there?

    and ANYBODY can be a programmer? Or has the talent to be a content creator?

    look up "post labor economy" and get back to me.

    Your memes are making you look foolish.

    Happens sometimes, don't feel bad.
    Talking about a "post-labor" economy makes you look foolish. This is what happens when you attempt to teach post-modern pothead sociologists economics. They don't fix their stupidity, instead they inject their stupidity into economics.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    No, I think other nations protect their lazy and unmotivated using any measure necessary. And in countries like France and Greece, it is falling apart at the seems in front of our very eyes.
    another one who believes fairy tales!

    I guess you don't know anything about Scandinavian economies?

    While many western countries are still reeling from the widening economic crisis and some southern European economies are regarded as basket cases, Scandinavia has been weathering the global financial storm surprisingly well.

    The facts


    Norway Underpinned by high oil prices and exports of related equipment and services, Norway's problems are those of success. Growth is predicted to be high, but increased labour immigration will reduce the risk of costs rising sharply and the economy overheating. It is predicted that wage growth will be much higher than in neighbouring countries, but not so high as to push inflation above target. However, strong economic growth could mean higher interest rates over the next couple of years.

    Sweden Despite a weakening labour and export market since the global financial crisis, Sweden's economy is proving to be remarkably resilient. The country's GDP and employment rose again during the first half of this year. Nevertheless, the global economic situation has forced the Swedish finance minister Anders Borg to reduce the country's growth targets.

    Denmark Although Denmark's economy has been languishing when compared with Norway and Sweden, activity has remained at about the same level since the autumn of 2010. But it is widely expected that the economy will gradually start to grow again this year, accelerating to 2.1 per cent in 2014. The expected reversal of economic trends will be driven by growing consumer spending.

    Finland With its economy no longer propelled by mobile phone maker Nokia, which once accounted for half the value of the Helsinki stock exchange, Finland faces difficulties typified by a slowdown in consumer spending, a growing public sector deficit and an export market that is not expected to start to recover until next year. Nordea has lowered its forecast for economic growth next year from 1.6 per cent to 1.2 per cent. In 2014, growth is expected to be 2.8 per cent.


    The fact that Scandinavian countries have onerous tax systems and generous state welfare benefits seems to contradict accepted economic wisdom in other parts of the world, such as in the United States and the United Kingdom, where the role of the state is generally being rolled back where possible in response to the global crisis.

    "Denmark, Finland, Norway and Sweden all belong to the exclusive club of countries with top ratings from the major credit rating agencies. These countries have status as safe havens in financial markets," says Helge Pedersen, the global chief economist at Nordea, a financial services group in the Nordic and Baltic region.

    Economists and governments in other less-favoured economies are now starting to ask why it is that Scandinavian economies have been able to avoid the economic turmoil so successfully.

    One crucial factor is that some Scandinavian countries received an early inoculation against the kind of boom and bust that has derailed larger and apparently more robust economies, which are still floundering since the US-led housing crash and subsequent financial crisis.


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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    That is because those who have money and want to help out the less fortunate actually put their money where their mouth is and donate. Its the difference between the talkers and the walkers, and talking never made anyone rich.
    so they don't invest?

    they just give to charity and then spend all their time on forums complaining about the poor?

    where I live we don't do it that way.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    In what sense to you consider it to be a fantasy? Progressive nanny-staters are all about controlling (regulating) other people and taking (redistributing) their property.
    I don't think you get it.

    when you need to rely on terms like "nanny staters" it becomes obvious that you confuse ideology with economics.
    Every political good carried to the extreme must be productive of evil.

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