View Poll Results: How serious a problem is the divide between the wealthy and the rest of us?

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  • Not a problem at all.

    35 28.46%
  • A problem, but not a serious one.

    8 6.50%
  • A fairly serious problem.

    42 34.15%
  • It's not just a "problem." It's a catastrophe that is only getting worse.

    38 30.89%
  • This divide does not exist.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    It would not be serious if the masses would just stop agreeing to bailing out failed banks and pathetic corporations.

    Stop agreeing to massive deficits that mostly end up in the rich' bank accounts.

    Stop trying to tax the rich by raising their income tax rates...that's not where the truly rich make their money - they make it through capital gains.

    Stop bankrolling the military industrial complex.

    Stop going so far into debt.

    Stop looking towards corrupt politicians to fix your problems AND STOP VOTING FOR THEM.

    Start using economic boycott against corporations you don't like/support.

    Stop agreeing to higher tax rates/fees/costs - demand lower taxes/fees/costs.

    Take more responsibility for your lives and especially for your mistakes (like too much debt).

    Stop just whining about it and actually do something about it.


    The only thing these massive deficits/QE's are doing is taking your tax dollars and giving them to big banks and major stockholders.
    Dude, it's not the masses who pressure the government for that stuff. Rather, it's corporate executives and people of wealth who bribe Representatives and Senators with campaign donations in order to get taxpayer money in subsidies, contracts, or bail-outs. And because they can bribe Congressmen, they get their way.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How serious a problem is the wealth gap between the wealthy and the rest of us?
    I don't see it as a problem at all. The lower classes got mad, and bitched about it enough to get in the press again, just like they always do.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    It's not the wealth gap per se, it's the legislation behind it.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Huge issue that could one day lead to the next civil war.

    As fewer and fewer get more and more, while the vast majority fall out of the middle class and into the lower class....emotions and anger will increase by orders of magnitude.

    Without a strong middle class - it's only a matter of time before the power keg goes off.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    The OP question is divisive from the get go.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    The OP question is divisive from the get go.
    Acknowledging reality often is.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    How serious a problem is the wealth gap between the wealthy and the rest of us?
    Any nation that has a small percentage of the population with tremendous/growing wealth and a large majority with dwindling wealth is going to have problems. I would say that nearly any of our political issues can be dealt with if we tackle the problem of poverty.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by Mathematician View Post
    Jealousy is the only real issue.
    The real issue is privilege.
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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Dude, it's not the masses who pressure the government for that stuff. Rather, it's corporate executives and people of wealth who bribe Representatives and Senators with campaign donations in order to get taxpayer money in subsidies, contracts, or bail-outs. And because they can bribe Congressmen, they get their way.
    I know that - but if enough of the masses demanded that there were no more bailouts, there would be no more bailouts.

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    Re: The divide between the rich and the rest

    The gap is not the problem. It is a symptom of the real problems.

    While there will always be a gap between the rich and the poor, how wide the gap is or becomes can be determined by the laws governing business and the demonstrated desire of the poor to actually work to better themselves or in many cases even to work at all.

    Corporate protectionism, job protectionism and a business environment that curbs competition instead of encouraging it will always lead to a bigger gap and a reduction in the number of wealthy, though those who are still wealthy will have more.

    At the same time as we have seen these factors increase in America, we have also seen the lower end of the scale become more and more dependent upon government and become less and less likely to actually do anything to improve their own position. We continue to see large amounts of skilled labor not being filled while unskilled labor almost disappears from the country. Jobs like nursing have large shortages of available people but jobs like cashier at Walmart have a plethora of people to choose from. Just like increased competition will lower the amount a company makes, increased competition in the job market will decrease what a worker makes.

    We have such shortages in skills that require education and the discipline to actually complete the program. We have people saying companies need to pay more when those same people are not willing to educate themselves or take opportunities to make themselves more desirable in the jobs market. We also have people spending 4 years at a University to get a degree which is either almost non-employable or in a degree program that floods the labor market. Interesting that these seem to be in degree programs that are the easiest and require the least amount of discipline to complete.

    No, the gap is not nor will it ever actually be the problem, it is only a symptom. The real problem is the greediness, laziness, lack of discipline and general ignorance of too many Americans that think someone else should make their life better instead of them taking responsibility and doing something for themselves.
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